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    Quote Originally Posted by novamare View Post

    But man do I wish there were a checkpoint. I'm so tired of ratzon, not to mention, phase 2 music is objectively some of the best in the game. (Fight me )
    ^ 1mil time this

    The entirety of phase 1 and 2 feels like a doorboss and p3 is basically a completely seperate fight with no overlap. Having to repeat the first two phases over and over and over and over just to get any meaningful progress is spirit-breaking. Bacially have to completely reset your brain every single time because the first two phases have absolutely nothing to do with phase 3. This is where my frustration is coming from, well this plus how f'ing hard to recognize the flash before the pillars is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    Then don't take this the wrong way, but it could just be you've hit your wall.
    That's fine, but like I said, this isn't Sav. Expecting something that rewards pets/minions/glamours to be on par in difficulty with content that rewards character progression is a bit much in my view (with the obv exception being Ultimate weapon skins). Especially when you have people who were doing UW clears with their fc previously and then after the patch you basically hit them in the face with a sledgehammer and say "get lost scrub".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issaella View Post
    That's fine, but like I said, this isn't Sav. Expecting something that rewards pets/minions/glamours to be on par in difficulty with content that rewards character progression is a bit much in my view (with the obv exception being Ultimate weapon skins). Especially when you have people who were doing UW clears with their fc previously and then after the patch you basically hit them in the face with a sledgehammer and say "get lost scrub".
    Every high end raid rewards you with this though?

    FCs will be able to do unreal clears once you know, people get a grasp on the mechanics? Don't see what would change really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    FCs will be able to do unreal clears once you know, people get a grasp on the mechanics? Don't see what would change really.
    There is a big difference between "able to clear it once" and "able to clear it weekly". The mechanics being like a current tier Sav where one f-up by one person can mean a wipe, i don't see that happening. I see having to invest 1-2h per clear per week in the PF just to get screwed over by box placement in the minigame and get 15 leaves. I could tolerate that annoyance when I was investing 30-45 minutes for 2 clears, not when I'm investing several hours due to the massive increase in difficulty. Anyone who thinks this is going to smooth out after a few weeks either is running it with a static or completely delusional. This morning I watched a [Duty Complete] retell group fail to fill/relist for 90+ minutes in the PF. And that was 1 of only 2 or 3 groups listed for several hours.
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    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issaella View Post
    There is a big difference between "able to clear it once" and "able to clear it weekly". The mechanics being like a current tier Sav where one f-up by one person can mean a wipe, i don't see that happening. I see having to invest 1-2h per clear per week in the PF just to get screwed over by box placement in the minigame and get 15 leaves. I could tolerate that annoyance when I was investing 30-45 minutes for 2 clears, not when I'm investing several hours due to the massive increase in difficulty. Anyone who thinks this is going to smooth out after a few weeks either is running it with a static or completely delusional. This morning I watched a [Duty Complete] retell group fail to fill/relist for 90+ minutes in the PF. And that was 1 of only 2 or 3 groups listed for several hours.
    People would be able to clear it weekly too.. I mean go ahead and look at P3S, as much as everyone hates it there are oodles of clears. Same with P4S.

    I mean.. it's a "new" fight. P1S and P2S, one person messing up means a wipe too for most PF parties. So again, don't see the difference. In extremes, I believe for S&S synched you would run into the same shenanigans.

    Seems like you should go out and improve while you wait for more people to clear lol. There were plenty of unreal prog parties for us in Crystal DC last night, so YMMV there.
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