New Unreal is a an all around miserable experience.

[Issaella]

It's literally the first week of the patch. Keep progging and keep up the practice, in no time you will get it. Some savage/extreme fights are not even that hard too bro.

We knocked out UW in an hour when it was released, never even saw enrage. After a couple weeks the only wipes came form people not paying attention. Compared to this it's not even in the same ballpark. Hell, I had more success PFing p2s, I had at least seen enrage after 4h of prog.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

We knocked out UW in an hour when it was released, never even saw enrage. After a couple weeks the only wipes came form people not paying attention. Compared to this it's not even in the same ballpark. Hell, I had more success PFing p2s, I had at least seen enrage after 4h of prog.

This is literally how sephi was back in the day. This is an accurate representation of the fight lol.


Ultima weapon came out in 2.0, when things were still fairly simple. That changed in 3.x, when they went a bit overboard.

[Tlamila]

Ultima was notoriously easy.
I haven't had the chance to try this Unreal yet (cause cursed week) but I remember well Shiva Unreal. Many PF and an FC run and I've ever seen it down to 40% HP. It was kinda notorious for beign a PF-stopper. Sephirot EX is a notoriously hard EX, so it's no surprise that's hard to clear. And they even nerfed it a bit for Unreal.

[Padudu]

We knocked out UW in an hour when it was released, never even saw enrage. After a couple weeks the only wipes came form people not paying attention. Compared to this it's not even in the same ballpark. Hell, I had more success PFing p2s, I had at least seen enrage after 4h of prog.

Yeah, UW was undertuned lol. It was easy and people abused that. Now the new unreal requires engagement, some thinking, some prog, and respecting mechanics. Now people that were getting carried complain that it's too hard lol.

P2S is not that hard either dude. It's all the same song and dance - do it enough times and you will get through - I say this as a pug player that has done P1S/P2S many, many times. Granted, I am not great at the game either, but I'm actively trying to improve to pull more of my weight into groups.

Despite struggling to clear high-end content, I don't demand that it be made easier. It defeats the entire purpose of trying to improve and get better. In a couple weeks, you'll see clear parties for this. Just keep progging and trying - if a party doesn't work out, find another. Make your own. Go with friends/join a casual static to improve. You will get the clear in time.

[Zomkei]

We knocked out UW in an hour when it was released, never even saw enrage. After a couple weeks the only wipes came form people not paying attention. Compared to this it's not even in the same ballpark. Hell, I had more success PFing p2s, I had at least seen enrage after 4h of prog.

that’s because ultima was easy back when it was released. we cleared it within an hour too. Sep EX, however, was more of a challenge. as others said, this is unreal - EX level difficulty of fights that were typically harder to clear (back when current) than current EX fights are. don’t give up and beg for it to get easier. prog and clear, then be proud of yourself for doing so. or, if you don’t find it worthwhile, don’t do the fight.

[Payadopa]

Cool story, bro.

[Seera1024]

So you're judging the current ease of completion of the Unreal to one that you admit may have been tuned to be too easy and saying that it's not fair that you've lost an easy complete in a week when we're only on day 3 of the content having been released? Just making sure I've got it right?

If so, have patience, especially if you are in a static. Once people figure out the fight, things will go smoother on average.

[Xaphire]

Ultima EX was a pushover of a fight when it released in ARR, it came as no surprise that the unreal incarnation of the same fight was easy. Sephirot EX is harder, but just learn the mechanics. It isn't really that hard of a fight.

[Iyrnthota]

It is rather amusing that we've gone from what was considered the easiest old EX to what was considered one of the hardest.
A nicely laid trap Yoshi and friends. Nicely laid indeed.

[Issaella]

So you're judging the current ease of completion of the Unreal to one that you admit may have been tuned to be too easy and saying that it's not fair that you've lost an easy complete in a week when we're only on day 3 of the content having been released? Just making sure I've got it right?

It's called nuance. I'm not asking for it to be as easy as UW, I'm asking for it not to be on par with a current Sav. Gradual ramp up in difficulty is all I want! 4h of wasted effort last night and barely saw Storm twice, and that was with 7/8 fc on voice. Which means I'd likely have to spend another 4h just proging p3 in the PF, and that not even taking into account that everyone just joins a p3 prog group as a fresh and has no idea what they are doing on the first 2 phases (I know I tried it this morning and got absolutely nowhere, never even saw p3 with people wiping constantly on the group stacks and baiting the kb). With the massive difficulty spike the PF is going to be a nightmare of wipes for reclears on a weekly basis. I guess asking for reasonable progress to be possible in 4h of investment is just too much. I had better success puging Sav last tier, it only took me 3-4h to get enrage on p2s and maybe another 2 to clear. This is just as if not more infuriating mechanically.