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    New Unreal is a an all around miserable experience.

    I'm willing to concede Ultimate Weapon may have been under-tuned, but this is straight up awful and i hate it.

    Four hours last night with nothing to show for it except missing clumps of hair and cracked teeth. Saw repeat of p3 mechanics twice, in 4h, 38% best run. Numerous insta-wipe mechanics, hard to see telegraphs (the ****ing flash before the pillars!). It might as well be 2 entirely separate fights, because p3 has no mechanical overlap with the previous phases.

    Unreal was the one piece of high end content I could do reliably on a weekly basis without wanting to smash my head against my desk. What purpose does this massive ramp up in difficulty serve? Chase off all the people who were doing UW reliably in PF last patch? Because I sure as hell don't want to waste another 4h trying to get a clear, I did Sav in PF last tier where weekly reclears were a complete crapshoot, I have no desire to repeat that.

    Thanks for giving me one less reason to log in. I bet 1mil gil that my fc wont even be able to fill a group next week after last night without 4/8 PuGs. I don't want to do it again, that's for sure.
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    When people ask why we can't have difficult/hard content, this is why lol.
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    You have Sav, Ultimate, and Ex. Why can't we have 1 piece of content that people can do without hours upon hours of misery?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issaella View Post
    You have Sav, Ultimate, and Ex. Why can't we have 1 piece of content that people can do without hours upon hours of misery?
    Isnt there plenty of content where you can play without any reasonable difficulty?
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    No, because there isn't anything between braindead 1-shot clears (Expert, Normal raids) and miserably hours long wipefests with minimal chance of success. Like I said, last Unreal I could at least make the assumption that if I had 45 minutes to set aside I could get 2 clears for the weekly reward. There is no way that's happening this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issaella View Post
    No, because there isn't anything between braindead 1-shot clears (Expert, Normal raids) and miserably hours long wipefests with minimal chance of success. Like I said, last Unreal I could at least make the assumption that if I had 45 minutes to set aside I could get 2 clears for the weekly reward. There is no way that's happening this time.
    You're giving up before you can even try to see the fight through tbh. Like I said, give it time for people to even touch unreal and grasp the mechanics fully. Sorry this unreal actually has to make you do mechanics and think. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issaella View Post
    No, because there isn't anything between braindead 1-shot clears (Expert, Normal raids) and miserably hours long wipefests with minimal chance of success. Like I said, last Unreal I could at least make the assumption that if I had 45 minutes to set aside I could get 2 clears for the weekly reward. There is no way that's happening this time.
    Because Ultima was never an EX fight. They essentially beefed up a hard made back in ARR. Hence why it never got the Extreme moniker. Sephirot, on the other hand, is how Extreme fights used to be. Granted, he's arguably the hardest ever released before we saw a gradual decline to what EXs are now: chump fights for the most part. If you've done Unreal since it released, Sephirot isn't that much harder than Titan or Leviathan were in PF. People are simply too used to the faceroll of Ultima.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issaella View Post
    You have Sav, Ultimate, and Ex. Why can't we have 1 piece of content that people can do without hours upon hours of misery?
    Unreal Trials are EX level difficulty. They were always supposed to be. The design concept behind them is supposed to upgraded versions of the original Ex fights tuned to max level. It's supposed to be difficult, and it is no surprise that Sephirot is harder that Ultimate Weapon. At release Sephirot really did a number on groups in the Ex mode.
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    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issaella View Post
    You have Sav, Ultimate, and Ex. Why can't we have 1 piece of content that people can do without hours upon hours of misery?
    Unreal is supposed to be a little bit difficult?

    It's literally the first week of the patch. Keep progging and keep up the practice, in no time you will get it. Some savage/extreme fights are not even that hard too bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    It's literally the first week of the patch. Keep progging and keep up the practice, in no time you will get it. Some savage/extreme fights are not even that hard too bro.
    We knocked out UW in an hour when it was released, never even saw enrage. After a couple weeks the only wipes came form people not paying attention. Compared to this it's not even in the same ballpark. Hell, I had more success PFing p2s, I had at least seen enrage after 4h of prog.
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