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    Player SentioftheHoukai's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Causante View Post
    I don't think people didn't believe the convocation, their decisions saved the remaining ancients and restored the planet albeit at a terrible cost and people had to volunteer for that even before the summoning ocurred after all. Your conclusion makes it sound like zodiark was manipulating the convocation, which in turn was manipulating the populace, prompting venat to perform a drastic act to save "life". I'm sure you'll agree that's not what happened or how it was portrayed in recent expansions.



    I'm pretty sure we're supposed to accept that as full retcon. I may be wrong on this, but I don't remember ascians praising zodiark as a "true god" in a fanatical sense since they changed the writing around the ascians. What it felt to me is that from then on they treated zodiark as the embodiment of their hopes for a future where they could recover what they had lost.

    In my mind this makes sense even in a logical society if you think about it. They were on the verge of extinction, everything they knew was being destroyed and people around them dying. All this happening without a cause or a reason (from their perspective). And then this all powerful being makes everything stop and is even able to restore the planet (to some extent) to what it once was. I think it should be doable to understand that a lot of people, specially those less versed in the sciences or creation magicks, would start to worship their "savior". Others, on the other hand, would be afraid of him given what they had (as a collective) to sacrifice, which would explain why they were so divided. The mental state of the ancient society must have been chaotic after dealing with such a catastrophe.

    This scenario could've been explored way better to try and give more convincing explanations for the downfall of ancient society and Venat actions, but it's not how they went about it endwalker. It's not about Zodiark, it's about Hermes and Venat's beliefs.
    Yeah, that ONE TRUE GOD nonsense literally happened ONE FRICKIN' TIME in the height of ARR foolishness in a single damn cutscene. Not exactly damning evidence as it is, and like others have said none of the moral nuance surrounding the Ascians and Ancients existed back then.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    People vouching for Emet-Selch isn’t the same as a democratic election. That poster earlier was insinuating that Azem and Fandaniel snuck through the “regular” process via nepotism and the others were democratically voted in and this is not the case.

    Ancients are not casting ballots for Convocation seats. If a seat is open, it looks like the sitting members will go around and look for recommendations.
    In all honesty, I'll admit my info was slightly inaccurate but frankly that was hardly the point. The important part is all these fools thinking their a bunch of tyrants who make decisions for the entire populace with no checks or balances and there is plentiful evidence to suggest this is not the case. People just decide to ignore it in favor of their headcanons that unilaterally prove Venat morally upstanding without flaw.
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    Last edited by SentioftheHoukai; 08-25-2022 at 01:47 AM.