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    Ceridwenae's Avatar
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    As I sometimes can do, I might get a little on the personal side here, OP. If I'm too much, feel free to ignore me. But I'm doing this from what I believe is a good place, because I don't like seeing people in these sorts of situations and want to help.

    I don't especially like how they don't tell you what you did wrong, but I understand why they don't. For you, OP, you'll likely never know exactly what it was that you did, said or danced that was unacceptable, but I did take a swift peek at your post history to see if I could garner any hints - apologies for this, it's creeper-ish, and at best a scattershot approach to see if anything obvious sticks out.

    Without any context, you've called someone an "asshat" here, said someone's parents failed, and often seem to be somewhat combative with other posters (there are more things I could point at, but you can read your own posts and see what you think); that's without even going past the first few lines of the posts, and in just August alone. Again, however, I'll stress that's all without the context of why you wrote those words, so I'm personally not saying whether or not you're right or wrong in the spirit of the discussions you were having, nor whether I agree with you for doing so.

    My tip, should you want it, is not to call anyone anything that can be seen as pejorative at any time. If you happen to talk, when you talk, in-game as you have here, then you might've caught someone who was already having a bad day, or genuinely found what you said upsetting. If SE's moderators/GMs review the logs or forum posts and decide the person(s) who lodged the complaint has a case, then you have yourself a warning (or ban, in the worst cases).

    This isn't a thing where you can't talk to anyone. I want to gently urge you to see that as a fallacy of thought; a self-defense mechanism which isn't really helping you. What I want to encourage you to do is take a moment to read your posts or comments and imagine how other people might respond to them. Ask yourself have you ever enjoyed being called an "asshat", when you were just trying to put across your thoughts, however ineptly? It's not that you can't speak with people, but that sometimes, a little reframing is instead required. It might be, for example, beneficial to ask people how they reach specific conclusions so you can gain understanding of their perspective, rather than just going in full-throated judgement of a position. Admittedly, there's some SE-based irony here.

    Only you know you here, so maybe it's worth taking some time for self-reflection; no one here can really help you as much as you can help yourself in that regard. It's something we all should do regularly anyway, so it can only be a good thing for you - and that's where I'd suggest you steer yourself: towards something more positive, rather than the negatives it's so easy to drift to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceridwenae View Post
    As I sometimes can do, I might get a little on the personal side here, OP. If I'm too much, feel free to ignore me. But I'm doing this from what I believe is a good place, because I don't like seeing people in these sorts of situations and want to help.
    ^This entire post is the best one in this thread, with great advice.

    I find the number of people writing "Just don't talk in-game" to be interesting, because I talk all the time in this game, other MMOs, and other online games in general, and I have never, after decades of gaming, received a "warning" or anything of the sort from any company. I feel like as long as one speaks or writes with kindness and positivity (the main elements of being a likeable person, really), then no reasonable person would find fault. But some people online throw out disparaging remarks, casual rudeness, and profanity-laced diatribes about whatever they have issue with that very second, to the extent that these people cannot even remember and recognize what they might have said or done that offended someone else.

    Just treat others as you wish to be treated, which includes speaking to others the way you wish to be spoken to, and there will be no reason why you cannot chat with other people in the game. Then again, there is that other traditional saying: if you have nothing kind to say, keep it to yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    ^This entire post is the best one in this thread, with great advice.

    I find the number of people writing "Just don't talk in-game" to be interesting, because I talk all the time in this game, other MMOs, and other online games in general, and I have never, after decades of gaming, received a "warning" or anything of the sort from any company. I feel like as long as one speaks or writes with kindness and positivity (the main elements of being a likeable person, really), then no reasonable person would find fault. But some people online throw out disparaging remarks, casual rudeness, and profanity-laced diatribes about whatever they have issue with that very second, to the extent that these people cannot even remember and recognize what they might have said or done that offended someone else.

    Just treat others as you wish to be treated, which includes speaking to others the way you wish to be spoken to, and there will be no reason why you cannot chat with other people in the game. Then again, there is that other traditional saying: if you have nothing kind to say, keep it to yourself.
    This, again, is running under the assumption that I was being hostile to someone in the game which is not the case. Like I mentioned earlier, I go out of my way to be nice and supportive to people. I give people compliments, I do my best to be sociable. I even danced for a bunch of lalafels in Limsa a couple days ago. I'm really one of the nicest people you'll meet. The assumption a lot of people on these forums seem to have that I deserved this for being a bad person is kind of infuriating. I've been gaming online since the 90's and never once have I had to deal with something like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceridwenae;6057433

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    Without any context[/B], you've called someone an "asshat" here, said someone's parents failed, and often seem to be somewhat combative with other posters (there are more things I could point at, but you can read your own posts and see what you think); that's without even going past the first few lines of the posts, and in just August alone. Again, however, I'll stress that's all without the context of why you wrote those words, so I'm personally not saying whether or not you're right or wrong in the spirit of the discussions you were having, nor whether I agree with you for doing so.

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    Came here to note that while OP is generally just about the game... they are definitely not without ...moments.

    Good reply.

    We'd all like to think we do nothing wrong, but if you're getting warnings maybe stop that extra second before you say anything in game.

    Been playing for the entire run of the game. No warnings. Ever. I talk all the time to randoms but am careful in "mixed" company to not say anything I wouldn't tell a complete stranger face to face. Seems to be working.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?