6.2 eve pvp changes

[GordonGeeko]

I'm...thoroughly confused as to why WHM got buffed across the board outside of a nerf to Miracle of Nature's range. They were already the most commonly seen healer in CC.

Well if there's one thing we've learned, it's that PVP job adjustments are based a lot on the win rates that they see on Crystalline Conflict. They want them to be all close to 50%. It doesn't really have anything to do with how many people play the jobs. That's why they buffed Black Mage back then.

White mage, while used frequently, had the lowest win rate of all the jobs, so they wanted to bring the win rate up a bit.



By the same logic, that's why they nerfed scholar buffs and debuffs from 10% to 8% (highest win rate). The warrior self-heal buffs were to bring that win rate up a bit too.

[KageTokage]

That balancing logic is terrible because if a class gets bandwagoned due to being somewhat better then others (But not outstandingly so to the point of being able to carry bad players), it can potentially tank its win/loss ratio as a side effect of that.

The tank and healer most commonly believed to be the "best" having the lowest win/loss ratio doesn't seem like a coincidence.

RPR is also widely considered to be the worst melee job yet it ended up with the highest win ratio because the few dedicated enough to play it could make it work in spite of its shortcomings due to just being better players overall.

[Jettinson]

The Astro card changes make sense so not much to say but they really couldn't change how Chainsaw behaves instead of a nerf to 95% while still playing rng lol.

Would have loved something like a vuln stack or dot or anything for Chainsaw...

[GordonGeeko]

Also I found that out today, but it is pretty interesting that they have a section on the PVP job guide page explaining a lot of their balancing decisions.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/pvp/#pvpaction

At the bottom of the page you can reveal the "Patch 6.2 Adjustments Overview".

[HermitUK]

Regrettably, 6.18 FL changes seem to be here to stay.

Yeah, I saw that this morning. Turns out "We are planning a number of adjustments for Patch 6.2" for Frontlines just meant "Ah, you'll get used to it". Ah well, maybe at some point during 6.2x. No fix for PLD cheese either, which hardly surprises me but is still baffling that they're OK with that as a feature, not a bug.

[Dreadz]

Also I found that out today, but it is pretty interesting that they have a section on the PVP job guide page explaining a lot of their balancing decisions.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/pvp/#pvpaction

At the bottom of the page you can reveal the "Patch 6.2 Adjustments Overview".

Goddamn these are a shallow, I knew the PvP team was incompetent, but shesh. That pathetic slap on the wrist for NIN's LB, not fixing the snapshotting bullcrap on SMN and MCH's LB and buffing WHM because it's popular, then nerfing AST and SCH because they had better players. Least they could've done is give us 2 charge of purify.

[Intratec]

Goddamn these are a shallow, I knew the PvP team was incompetent, but shesh. That pathetic slap on the wrist for NIN's LB, not fixing the snapshotting bullcrap on SMN and MCH's LB and buffing WHM because it's popular, then nerfing AST and SCH because they had better players. Least they could've done is give us 2 charge of purify.

Shallow doesn't begin to cover it. I main SCH and AST in PvP. Taking away Ewer and Spire (I could live without Ewer, but Spire was such a nice thing to have). Even if they brought in Bole and Arrow, Spire was by far a great thing to have on the battlefield and in CC. It may not have seemed like much but it could help clinch LBs that needed a slight boost in getting full. The nerfing of Adlo and Bio, but I see bloodwhetting, horrid roar and chaotic spring are getting headpats. This isn't balancing. It's the thinnest coat of paint and saying it is better. Thank goodness they left BRD alone.

[Nanne]

Thank you for again considering everything else in the game with your patch/release timings except PvP I am already ready for good old 14+ months of back to back seasons!!!

[MonteCristo]

That balancing logic is terrible because if a class gets bandwagoned due to being somewhat better then others (But not outstandingly so to the point of being able to carry bad players), it can potentially tank its win/loss ratio as a side effect of that.

The tank and healer most commonly believed to be the "best" having the lowest win/loss ratio doesn't seem like a coincidence.

RPR is also widely considered to be the worst melee job yet it ended up with the highest win ratio because the few dedicated enough to play it could make it work in spite of its shortcomings due to just being better players overall.

This ^^^^^ I Wonder why i get flamed for saying some of the literal same things.

[Oni_Akuma]

The thought process and consideration SquarenEnix does is absurd. Plus they only listen to the Japanese forums which is unfortunate. With their perfect network infrastructure and ping.

They should have thought of and brought stuff up from WoW PvP, since its was better in a certain era.

Where is our Battlegrounds? Faction related stuff? Free For All, 1 v 1, 3 v 3 death match modes, or modes where you fight the admiral/general of the faction after pummeling through objectives?

Balancing around all those ideas would be amazing. Especially 24 button pvp would be a sweet spot. 2 hotbar cycling or 4 for ps4 + macros.