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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    In regards to roulettes, I really only have an issue with Alliance Raids. My issue is you can have 23 level 90s in the queue, and the one player who is level 52 will drag every single one of those players into CT. Now I get there is the limited option, the roulette isn't necessary to acquire tomes/exp, and so forth. I have even mentioned these arguments myself. However, there is just something not right about that circumstance. Not right at all. It feels extremely counterproductive towards what the devs should be focusing on: Giving the players a fun and enjoyable experience.
    The duty finder doesn't care all it cares about is making full parties however possible

    The second you start shifting the rules you end up making everyone wait longer.

    Would you have those 23 level 90 players all wait in queue for another level 90 to join that fills whatever the last spot is..

    Would you have that one level 50 player sitting g around waiting for 23 other players below level 60 to queue. .

    The best way to e courage more variety in duties is increase the rewards. If ct can be done in 12 minutes and nets you 50 times or x amount of exp. Then something like orborne. Should net you double that amount.

    But when it's the same reward regardless sof what duty you get it's no surprise people bait there ilevles and such to ensure they get the quick ones
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    Last edited by Dzian; 08-22-2022 at 02:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    The duty finder doesn't care all it cares about is making full parties however possible

    The second you start shifting the rules you end up making everyone wait longer.

    Would you have those 23 level 90 players all wait in queue for another level 90 to join that fills whatever the last spot is..

    Would you have that one level 50 player sitting g around waiting for 23 other players below level 60 to queue. .

    The best way to e courage more variety in duties is increase the rewards. If ct can be done in 12 minutes and nets you 50 times or x amount of exp. Then something like orborne. Should net you double that amount.

    Butbwueb it's the same reward regardless sof what duty you get it's no surprise people bait there ilevles and such to ensure they get the quick ones
    I am not one to gripe without offering a solution, and I did so. I said either yank the CT raids out of the roulette and make them their own roulette along with thoroughly compensating the players who are beyond its requirements, or redo them completely. Again, I will say if these instances were fun to run, this would not be a problem. And while even the instances that players find the most fun can become trite and tiresome through repetitiveness, this is still less likely to happen if all the instances within a roulette are truly randomized. The bigger the level discrepancy gets between lv50 and max level, this worse this gets. Like I said before, "Why even put Aglaia in the roulette?" What are the odds that 24 players using the roulette will all be level 90? Seriously?

    This issue has bled into Raid roulette as well, as more often than not you are being thrown into Alexander. It is not as bad as alliance raids, but it is quickly headed in the same direction. It is also not as bad because many of the Alexander raids still require brain cells as many mechanics are still relevant, and can be a fun experience to have with the newer players. Even today, Cruise Chaser still wipes groups when he's <5%, and it is an absolutely wonderful humbling experience for players who decide to take their foot off the gas pedal too soon.

    Personally, I would GLADLY wait another 20 minutes in the queue to get an instance that takes 30-40 minutes to complete. And that is an easy decision too. 10 times out of 10 I would take that over getting CT yet again in the roulette. Trust me, when content is actually fun to do, rewards are a second thought. They are the hot fudge under yummy ice cream.
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