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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    A much easier solution: don't queue for leveling roulette if you're level 90 and want to play with your level 90 rotation. Works like a charm. Even during leveling it's not much more experience than just doing the highest level dungeon available to you.
    What if I need Tomestones too? Should I Ignore the 400+ ones I get doing roulette cause I can get as much If I spend trice the time spamming dungeons? I legit don't get you people who go from ''BuT wE nEeD tO hElP SpRoUt!1!11!!!'' Then when there complain about how the system to help them work you just go full 180 modes and tell people not to use it. Yea, who need rewards, let make them sprout wait half an hour between dungeon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    What if I need Tomestones too? Should I Ignore the 400+ ones I get doing roulette cause I can get as much If I spend trice the time spamming dungeons? I legit don't get you people who go from ''BuT wE nEeD tO hElP SpRoUt!1!11!!!'' Then when there complain about how the system to help them work you just go full 180 modes and tell people not to use it. Yea, who need rewards, let make them sprout wait half an hour between dungeon!
    If you want to help sprouts that way then you kind of have to accept your rotation syncing down. If you don't want your rotation to sync down, then maybe you just have to accept helping sprouts some other way like in the novice network and leveling some other way like fates, hunt bills, beast tribes or the highest level dungeon available.

    There are other ways to get tomestones. Pvp, max level dungeons, expert roulette, first time bonuses for level 90 content, S ranks, hunt trains and maps.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    If you want to help sprouts that way then you kind of have to accept your rotation syncing down. If you don't want your rotation to sync down, then maybe you just have to accept helping sprouts some other way like in the novice network and leveling some other way like fates, hunt bills, beast tribes or the highest level dungeon available.

    There are other ways to get tomestones. Pvp, max level dungeons, expert roulette, first time bonuses for level 90 content, S ranks, hunt trains and maps.
    Everything is fine either people don't queue for roulette and people looking to progress msq get stuck for hours or they do roulette and get a boring rotation and don't learn their job and at 90 they forgot they can use more than 3 skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    Everything is fine either people don't queue for roulette and people looking to progress msq get stuck for hours or they do roulette and get a boring rotation and don't learn their job and at 90 they forgot they can use more than 3 skills.
    There is not going to be a massive decline in people doing the roulettes if they suddenly decided to get their tomes elsewhere, there are people who are willing to do the roulettes after all and do not care about the syncing.

    As for 'learning their rotation', you shouldn't be learning in the instance. You should have already been hitting a striking dummy to learn at least your rotation basics before you go in. Getting synced down every time is not an excuse for not knowing your rotation at max level. This is a player issue, not a game issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    If you want to help sprouts that way then you kind of have to accept your rotation syncing down. If you don't want your rotation to sync down, then maybe you just have to accept helping sprouts some other way like in the novice network and leveling some other way like fates, hunt bills, beast tribes or the highest level dungeon available.

    There are other ways to get tomestones. Pvp, max level dungeons, expert roulette, first time bonuses for level 90 content, S ranks, hunt trains and maps.
    Y'all can't get the easy part uh..okay let me spell it out for you... Roulette gives those reward in such big quantities so you do them daily cause they are by far the best way to get XP and tomestone in-game, to a point other methods to farm them are slow and inefficient. The reason it is made like that is so level 90 player has a reason to do roulette daily for reward, they don't care about the sprout, they want the reward, but the system also helps sprout so that just happen at the same time. It is like when you work IRL, you don't become an employee at Mcdonald cause you want customers to be served fast food, you go there because you want to get paid. And you're the guy going around saying ''WeLl If YoU dOn'T wAnT tO sErVe CuStOmEr, bEgGiNg fOr MoNeY, iT aLsO gIvE cAsH''

    Yea sure I could xp in another way... Or I could save myself a week of farm and take those free 2-4 levels a day that are almost free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Y'all can't get the easy part uh..okay let me spell it out for you... Roulette gives those reward in such big quantities so you do them daily cause they are by far the best way to get XP and tomestone in-game, to a point other methods to farm them are slow and inefficient.
    Not true. If you kill just 10 S ranks, you get 1000 poetics and 300-800 aphorism, which is easy because they spawn all the time with the world visit system and ARR+4 expansions worth of them. An EW hunt train gives you at least 360 poetics, 240 aphorism and 120 astronomy in the time it takes to do 1 roulette. There is a reason they are popular. It's more efficient than doing expert roulette which only gives 90 astronomy.

    Although some roulettes give a lot of experience, a lot of them don't, such as level 50/60/70/80, normal raids and guildhest. It's not very desirable to do some of the roulettes either, such as main scenario and alliance, because you can get trapped in something that takes longer than 20 minutes. The bonus only applies once a day as well so after that you only have the highest level dungeon left as a way to level through dungeons.

    I've done fate farming in Shadowbringers and EW and made 3 levels very quickly. It must have been less than an hour in a party. But if you enjoy doing it through roulettes that is fine, but syncing is part of those roulettes.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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