Nightclub shouts

[Vahlnir]

There's a lot of nightclub spam in the major cities, for sure. While it may be annoying, I don't see what can really be done about it, since these are player organized events in a game that encourages RP. It is best to just shrug it off and move on with your day. Life's too short to be stressed over something as small as this. I'm never going to one of these venues anyway, and I truly don't care what other people are doing with their time.

[Renalt]

In Balmung we just push it out of the chat with our degeneracy. As soon as they post their advertisement it's already out of view because we got better things to do. Steps of Nald IS our nightclub spot.

[Larirawiel]

Yes, the chat on Balmung is ... special. xD


Cheers

[Breakbeat]

Goodness you people complain about everything. How about we just take chat away entirely? Just play in effing silence.

Playing with all the people means all the things will be complained about.

See also: real life. You know when people say, "everyone is (too sensitive/angry/this/that/the other thing) these days" during a discussion? Yeah, that's because "everyone" is involved in discussions since about 1996, but especially since social media blew up around 2010 or so.

We're no longer socializing with our four closest friends (whom we picked because their demeanor fit in with what we wanted as a friend), twenty dudes in an IRC channel, or a few thousand people reading alt.rec.video-games. There are millions of people playing this game, and social media has taught humans to bypass face-to-face problem resolution and instead to 'go online and complain' when they are dissatisfied or disappointed. The dissatisfied human complains with vitriol and sociopathy because "they're only complaining to a screen."

We are screwed, socially, until people treat internet communication as actual communication with other humans - and behave appropriately - but, I digress.

Given that millions of people have a million different opinions of how some form of subjective entertainment (in this case, FFXIV) should function - and most think they're correct and aren't open to changing their opinion - you're virtually guaranteed of seeing a complaint no matter where you turn your head these days. People have been conditioned for the past 20 years to complain into the ether so that they, themselves don't need to feel any internal pain.

Humanity's motto in 2022 and going forward is "I hurt, therefore I share the pain." Few know how to internalize minor disappointment and momentary pain. It's a skill we've virtually lost as a people. At the slightest sign of dissatisfaction, online we go to complain.

I get the frustration; I'm embarrassed by how people behave and the things over which they lose their minds. But I don't get the surprise or the confusion over why people complain. Or why they're offended, or why they have XYZ opinion. Given the way we now raise our children, a million people can and will complain about a million different things. Eight billion people can and will complain about eight billion different things. Some people are concerned on a day-to-day basis with things like health, finances, their job, their family, etc., whereas other people couldn't care less about those things and are instead concerned about scrolling text in a video game.

That's just life in this day and age. A generation of bad parenting when it comes to teaching young humans to deal with objectively minor pain and problems, coupled with global connectivity. I mean, 'Global Connectivity / Respect and Problem Resolution' is a class we should be placing our children in when they're old enough to communicate via computer.

[Alaray]

literally don't care because it takes less than a quarter of a braincell worth of power to read past the message if i'm not interested.

[Toutatis]

They end up on my ignore list. An occasional 2 line message is not bad but it has gotten worse since the last patch and many post ridiculously lengthy messages, sometimes in 2 consecutive parts, and occupy the whole chat window. It is disrespectful.

[Saraide]

literally don't care because it takes less than a quarter of a braincell worth of power to read past the message if i'm not interested.

I'm having a real hard time telling FC ads and venue/nightclub messages apart because I dont even read them.

[Asako]

As long as they dont have annoying sound effects in their macros I don't care. Just filter it out if it bothers you and create your own custom chat channel so you don't need to read it.

[Tyssyn]

I find them a bit annoying but I have a seperate chat window that I can switch to if it becomes too much - it has yell and shout turned off for that chat window. I also have assigned sounds to linkshells I am in, fc chat and tells so I can look at my 'quieter' chat window if I missed it in the general one. We have many solutions we can use.

[Wanzzo]

Hi,

I allready has post a thread on the German Forum about that topic. But I want to see how is the opinion of the english speaking community.

As soon as you visit one of the main cities you got a constant spam of nightclubs and parties. And not only for the own datacenter, they shout also for other too. You blacklist one, three more shout nearly instant for the next party/club etc. Even RMTseller or FC shouter aren't that worse than Party/Club shouter at the moment.

What do you think and feel about it? Should SE do something about it?

I just turn shout chat off in the General chat configs.
Some will spread to other chats, but the majority I can avoid doing that.

About what do to, I think there is no real problem if people enjoy clubs and RP stuff. We live in a world full of different people. So, to learn the best way to cohexist without annoing or being annoyed by differences is an important lesson for everyone.

The only thing I really complain is when a FC is composed mostly by ERPers. The few experiences I had in my past lead me to accept the existence, but always far away from me.
The most important thing to do inside game is to have fun. And people vary enormously in doing that. SE will always think in inviting more and more people to their products. So, no reason to do anything (since it's not violating ToS).