While there are memory stones for both the unsundered and sundered Ascians, the unsundered ones' served a different purpose; the sundered ones' were made to raise their sundered reflections to their former office, while the unsundered ones' helped them retain their sense of self over the aeons. Problem is both Lahabrea and Elidibus neglected to use theirs after a certain point; Lahabrea lost himself to mania, while Elidibus succumbed to his programming as a primal. Only Emet-Selch used his regularly enough to hold on to who he was before the Sundering.

Lahabrea was, however, much weaker than either due to his frequent body hopping.