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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    What the actual hell? It's basically the same thing we have right now! (taken from wowpedia. feel free to post a more correct version)
    No, it's not. You have no space limitations for transmogs. Every item, you got and that item had better quality than green is always available for transmogging. There is no glam dresser with limited space and you have to put an item into it etc. And the transmogs are account wide. It is also a nice advantage. If i collect a transmog template with my priestess, i can use this template on my other characters.


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    Last edited by Larirawiel; 08-19-2022 at 05:04 PM.

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    If we were locked to one job per character in FFXIV, I reckon dresser space wouldn't be that big an issue either. The amount of gear I want to store for glamour across all my classes is different to how much I would be storing for a character that only had one job to dress up.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    In reality a glamour system that was a simple:
    if=Collected, True/false
    ... it would fail to allow someone to use a 1,000,000 gil dye on a cheap item and store it in the glam chest for multiple future uses.
    E.g.: jet black die on a hempen chamise.

    The current system allows this, both on the items and/or on a glamour plate, and a lot of people find it a valuable capability. You're asking them to give this feature up. I doubt they will be pleased.

    As H.L. Menken said, for every complex problem there is an solution that is clear, simple, and wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    No, it's not. You have no space limitations for transmogs. Every item, you got and that item had better quality than green is always available for transmogging. There is no glam dresser with limited space and you have to put an item into it etc. And the transmogs are account wide. It is also a nice advantage. If i collect a transmog template with my priestess, i can use this template on my other characters.


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    It's essentially the same thing.

    It doesn't matter that alts on that game can use templates because they still have to adhere to the restrictions of what they can wear. You don't have multiclassing on that game. You don't even have non-combat classes with their own gear as an option.

    Ya'll have been lying to yourselves and everyone else trying to act like you know what will actually work in this game.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    It's essentially the same thing.
    Every transmog system is essentially the same thing. But again, you have no space restrictions because there is no glam dresser. And the restricted space is the major thing, which annoys the players mostly. In WoW, every character has access to every transmog template in the game as long as the character can equip that item. You only have to unlock the transmog template by collectiong the corresponding item. You can sell the item afterwards and the transmog template is still available.

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    I don't understand why do you people keep replying to Silverbane, that has to be the worst troll in the history of any online forum.
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    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siddiax View Post
    I don't understand why do you people keep replying to Silverbane, that has to be the worst troll in the history of any online forum.
    Your problem with me isn't that I'm a troll, because I'm not: I'm completely sincere.
    Your problem with me is that, deep down, you know I'm right and you don't like it; otherwise, you'd be able to offer a persuasive counterargument to my posts instead of the lame and fallacious ad-hominem you resorted to.

    When I was taking logic and philosophy courses to fulfill the humanities requirement for my first (science) degree, I learned you can discover new knowledge by arguing your points rationally with people you disagree with: thesis + antithesis = synthesis.
    You, Siddax, like so many extremists of all stripes today, lack that ability, and just seek to cancel people you disagree with instead. And your life will be poorer for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Your problem with me isn't that I'm a troll, because I'm not: I'm completely sincere.
    Your problem with me is that, deep down, you know I'm right and you don't like it; otherwise, you'd be able to offer a persuasive counterargument to my posts instead of the lame and fallacious ad-hominem you resorted to.

    When I was taking logic and philosophy courses to fulfill the humanities requirement for my first (science) degree, I learned you can discover new knowledge by arguing your points rationally with people you disagree with: thesis + antithesis = synthesis.
    You, Siddax, like so many extremists of all stripes today, lack that ability, and just seek to cancel people you disagree with instead. And your life will be poorer for it.
    They have Literally explained to you why Better Is different than good, and why people that use this glamour sistem could still love and ask something better or qol addition to the system.
    You Just dismiss everyone while twisting their words.. to me this Is troll behavior
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Your problem with me isn't that I'm a troll, because I'm not: I'm completely sincere.
    Your problem with me is that, deep down, you know I'm right and you don't like it; otherwise, you'd be able to offer a persuasive counterargument to my posts instead of the lame and fallacious ad-hominem you resorted to.

    When I was taking logic and philosophy courses to fulfill the humanities requirement for my first (science) degree, I learned you can discover new knowledge by arguing your points rationally with people you disagree with: thesis + antithesis = synthesis.
    You, Siddax, like so many extremists of all stripes today, lack that ability, and just seek to cancel people you disagree with instead. And your life will be poorer for it.
    Just so you know I didn't even bother reading whatever you wrote, I'll just quote your post from the previous page:

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Do I really have to explain why?
    Do I really have to explain to you, like you were a four year old, that it's a continuum, where the number of people playing is a continuous function in at least two dimensions of the enjoyment people get and the amount of hassle they experience?
    Do I have to explain what multi-dimensional functions are?
    Do I have to explain how most human behavior, aggregated across a statistically large enough population, can be mapped to them?

    Or did you know already know all that, and are just dishonestly pretending you didn't to try and "win" a forum argument?
    You can't possibly write all that and expect someone to take you seriously. That's also just a small part of all the ridiculous crap you've written in the multiple glamour related threads. We're on the FFXIV general discussions for god's sake lmao.

    If you're not just having fun by being obnoxious (which to be real I don't quite understand) please seek mental help.
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    Last edited by Siddiax; 08-19-2022 at 11:22 PM.
    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    You Just dismiss everyone while twisting their words.. to me this Is troll behavior
    It's easy to make accusations without evidence.
    Show me where I've done this. I'll wait ... but not holding my breath.

    OTOH, posters here have blatantly and intentionally misquoted me -- in quotation marks, even.
    Don't you consider that trolling? If so, why aren't you calling them out on it?
    Or do you have to disagree with someone for them to be a troll in your eyes, because your side can do no wrong? Not that you'd be alone in that -- which is why both the forums and the world risk going to hell.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siddiax View Post
    Just so you know I didn't even bother reading whatever you wrote ...
    Why? Afraid too? Too many big words you don't understand?
    Or are you just lying to avoid admitting you can't refute what I wrote?
    How can you accuse me of trolling when you don't even read what I post?

    [EDIT: I love how, rather than even attempt to refute my remarks on the matter at hand, you and Siddax have decided this thread should be about me instead. How laughable. But it's the first resort of someone without anything of substance to contribute. Put me on ignore, I don't mind when annoyance like you do that. Or are you afraid to?]

    And later:
    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    Let me get home and i'll burn you to the ground
    Promises, promises.
    Go for it. Spend hours crafting your self-described flame.
    Show me how important I am to you. (Fool.)

    And even later:
    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    Wow you really wanna make It Easy for me. See? This Is Just what theese ppl want.. they dont argue cause they do not agree, they argue for the sale of arguing, make ppl angry and male em lose time and Energy while they counter them -> troll behavior
    Says the poster who is going to go home and spend hours writing an off-topic personal attack to pollute the forums with, out of naked hate for another poster. So, does that sound like someone we should pay attention to when he cries "Troll"? Nah.

    And even later (don't you hate the daily posting limit?)
    Quote Originally Posted by Siddiax View Post
    Other than having an ego the size of Jupiter, you're really not that important.
    But you can't stop yourself from embarrassing yourself with your personal attacks on me.
    Your actions make lies of your words.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siddiax View Post
    You've been disproved a thousand times by now but just straight up ignore the truth
    Yet another evidence-free assertion. "Someone somewhere somewhen proved you wrong, I just can't be bothered to say who, where, or when." Well, if this ever did happen, we can be pretty sure it wasn't Siddiax.
    Quote Originally Posted by Siddiax View Post
    You're not a developer, you're just another salty forumite, so I won't gain anything by further arguing with you.
    But you couldn't resist another personal attack on me. Lame.
    I note that I used to be a software developer, for over two decades, before I changed careers.
    And I'm not salty at all, not about FFXIV. I think it's great in every way that matters to me.
    (Not practically perfect, like Mary Poppins, just great.)
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    Last edited by Silverbane; 08-20-2022 at 12:23 AM.

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