Glamour restrictions: a hinderance to creativity

[Bobby66]

Aye forums are place to share be it information, suggestions, and or opinions. I mean an argument can be made that many of the non JP suggestions fall on deaf ears but that is just conjecture.

[Darthgummibear]

Aye forums are place to share be it information, suggestions, and or opinions. I mean an argument can be made that many of the non JP suggestions fall on deaf ears but that is just conjecture.

This may be the case, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying. Defeatism helps nobody.

[Bobby66]

This may be the case, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying. Defeatism helps nobody.

Sure it might be defeatist of me, but as mentioned in many other threads we simply do not know what limitations they are facing on the data end. It is easy enough to switch things from M to F or even on and off for hats it is a simple toggle. Which means the complexities lay in either data / server or boil down to a design choice made by the devs.

Yoshi - P does not strike me as the type to adjust a core design choice they are in favor of on a personal level. Going based off his response years back he is largely in favor of gear restrictions.

[Darthgummibear]

Yoshi - P does not strike me as the type to adjust a core design choice they are in favor of on a personal level. Going based off his response years back he is largely in favor of gear restrictions.

He also doesn't strike me as the type to let hubris get in the way of choices that would benefit the community.

[Midareyukki]

Yoshi - P does not strike me as the type to adjust a core design choice they are in favor of on a personal level. Going based off his response years back he is largely in favor of gear restrictions.

He also doesn't strike me as the type to let hubris get in the way of choices that would benefit the community.

He's been against a lot of things, and when the community asked, he acquiesced. Of course, sometimes with his own personal touch, for better or worse. But he did.

People asked for Blue Mage, and he gave them that.
People asked for changes to different forms content, both as feedback and as changes to old "obsolete" content, and he did that.
He had no reason to make a Gunblade wielding class nor a class that used a scythe, and he was clear that it was mostly a Western-community sentiment to have a scythe wielder.
Viera had been sketched to enter the game, but their designs weren't approved. Since Heavensward have I heard people ask for Viera to be implemented, and when they were, he said the male counterpart would not exist and that Hrothgar would count as that. Fans cried out once more for him to reconsider, and now Viera have a male counterpart with Hrothgars having a female version on the way. Regardless of whatever grievance or issue those races have, Viera being included at all was them going back on their opinion when faced with fans' opinions.

Honestly, sometimes people forget that the game has undergone a massive change in its core design out of fan outcry and feedback, and that the game has been shaped by fan demand and opinion as it went along.

And if there's a vocal group in the community asking them to reconsider this stance, it could well be that they might change the way the game is laid out. Or they might not. They might very well stick to their decision and continue to say "No". But the community has grown since the last time he spoke on this matter, and people still point this out as a flaw that they wish were addressed. And there hasn't been that much in the game to warrant people stop asking for it, especially since there are now new voices joining the old ones he said "no" to years ago.

He has said no to some ideas, of course. None is better known than the memetic "NIGHTMEAH" moment a few years back. But he always gave a reason for it and often he didn't go back on his word on matters where the change would affect the game tremendously. This wouldn't do so. Really would only affect the glamour system.

...now whether the change would cause them grievances due to how the system is designed to begin with is another matter. Because sometimes, you think you're pulling on one tiny string, and then the whole castle comes crashing :x

[Darthgummibear]

He's been against a lot of things, and when the community asked, he acquiesced. Of course, sometimes with his own personal touch, for better or worse. But he did.

People asked for Blue Mage, and he gave them that.
People asked for changes to different forms content, both as feedback and as changes to old "obsolete" content, and he did that.
He had no reason to make a Gunblade wielding class nor a class that used a scythe, and he was clear that it was mostly a Western-community sentiment to have a scythe wielder.
Viera had been sketched to enter the game, but their designs weren't approved. Since Heavensward have I heard people ask for Viera to be implemented, and when they were, he said the male counterpart would not exist and that Hrothgar would count as that. Fans cried out once more for him to reconsider, and now Viera have a male counterpart with Hrothgars having a female version on the way. Regardless of whatever grievance or issue those races have, Viera being included at all was them going back on their opinion when faced with fans' opinions.

Honestly, sometimes people forget that the game has undergone a massive change in its core design out of fan outcry and feedback, and that the game has been shaped by fan demand and opinion as it went along.

And if there's a vocal group in the community asking them to reconsider this stance, it could well be that they might change the way the game is laid out. Or they might not. They might very well stick to their decision and continue to say "No". But the community has grown since the last time he spoke on this matter, and people still point this out as a flaw that they wish were addressed. And there hasn't been that much in the game to warrant people stop asking for it, especially since there are now new voices joining the old ones he said "no" to years ago.

He has said no to some ideas, of course. None is better known than the memetic "NIGHTMEAH" moment a few years back. But he always gave a reason for it and often he didn't go back on his word on matters where the change would affect the game tremendously. This wouldn't do so. Really would only affect the glamour system.

...now whether the change would cause them grievances due to how the system is designed to begin with is another matter. Because sometimes, you think you're pulling on one tiny string, and then the whole castle comes crashing :x

This is a pretty well articulated version of how I generally feel on the topic. I haven't been around to have some of the historical perspective regarding his behavior, but what you said certainly tracks with what I've seen in my time here so far.