If YoshiP feels the need to beg players not to fill their Glamour Dressers

[Tlamila]

The restrictions on the accessories was put back in HW because a meta was formed around the tanks, focusing solely on striking pieces instead of fending due to the back then 100% Attack Power gain on Strength. Folks also started using accessories purely for itemlevel boosting, regardless what type it was, with one particular case having been discussed in these very forums around a bard using fending accessories to bypass gearing up.

Both got eventually solved by SE during that expansion, and since then those restrictions were in place.

Yeah but it could be solved by being able to turn accessories into a glamour-only non-gear version that's "all classes". I understand the restrictions are needed gear-wise, but not glamour-wise.
asem with what the OP asks, I don't think anybody wants a tank and a maiming class, or a healer and a caster, to be able to wear the same gear, but once it's glamour..

[Arrius]

They already had a fix in place. Deciples of war and deciples of magic. Just put the split back in on all gear for glams.

Which was the previous iteration of the restrictions.
Check the Market Board of gear prior Level 51 - Some pieces, mainly combat Robes and Bliauds as well as accessories, had a 'all classes' tag on them.

Was it a good choice to have tanks wearing those robes back then? Probably not.
Was a interesting choice to glam those on along with a pointy wizard hat? Absolutely.

Whatever reason it was for SE, either through design decisions or just not trusting players to do sensible choices, further restrictions came around from this.

[Serilda]

Yeah but it could be solved by being able to turn accessories into a glamour-only non-gear version that's "all classes". I understand the restrictions are needed gear-wise, but not glamour-wise.
asem with what the OP asks, I don't think anybody wants a tank and a maiming class, or a healer and a caster, to be able to wear the same gear, but once it's glamour..

It's annoying even if you have all of the variant pieces and space for them (unlikely), because if you assign one to a glamour plate you get an error with any other job using the same glamour plate because of an earring. Perhaps a suitably 'FFXIV' solution (i.e. an overly complicated one) would be to be able to exchange say, lv61 earrings with a shared model across all classes with a lv1 all-classes version? People would still farm to get the original item but the glamour version of the item would then be perfect for the dresser and the originals wouldn't clog up storage space forever.

(Obviously an actual Glamour list where you can permanently unlock things without limits and dump the original items is the ideal.)

[Tlamila]

Perhaps a suitably 'FFXIV' solution (i.e. an overly complicated one) would be to be able to exchange say, lv61 earrings with a shared model across all classes with a lv1 all-classes version? People would still farm to get the original item but the glamour version of the item would then be perfect for the dresser and the originals wouldn't clog up storage space forever.

Yeah that's exactly what I meant, although I said it in more and probably less understandable words.

[novamare]

It's annoying even if you have all of the variant pieces and space for them (unlikely), because if you assign one to a glamour plate you get an error with any other job using the same glamour plate because of an earring. Perhaps a suitably 'FFXIV' solution (i.e. an overly complicated one) would be to be able to exchange say, lv61 earrings with a shared model across all classes with a lv1 all-classes version? People would still farm to get the original item but the glamour version of the item would then be perfect for the dresser and the originals wouldn't clog up storage space forever.

(Obviously an actual Glamour list where you can permanently unlock things without limits and dump the original items is the ideal.)

While I personally like the idea of also removing the level restriction (so I can use my favorite Paglth'an glam on BLU), I imagine that would rustle some jimmies around these parts. (Like everything does )

I'm also curious, in this hypothetical solution, would it be possible to "withdraw" your equipment from the glam chest? And if so, does it come out as the original piece as you put it in (thus requiring that the system "remember" what exact piece you submitted), or would it be the lv1 all-classes version? And if it's the unlocked version, would that need to be untradable?

[Kaurhz]

I feel like... They need to stop just trying to allocate resources to band-aid fixes and instead come up with a solution that is more pragmatic in the long-term, otherwise, you will just spend as much resource on the band-aid fix as you would on something long-term like reworking it.

Personally, I'd much rather take the ordeal of "We are looking at reworking the system and are hesitant to continue updating the glamour dresser, so your patience would be appreciated", followed by "These are the avenues we are exploring for a long term solution, but likely won't be ready prior to 7.0, sorry" - At least this would give a sense of confirmation and acknowledgment. But then I do also know that people would cry about this even more.

Than

"Here's another update for a system that quite clearly doesn't work due to the volume of unique assets" - The rate at which they churn out unique and new assets is much faster than the rate with which they can continue to update the system. Just isn't feasible, whatsoever.

[Deceptus]

How many of us have multiple copies of the same gear model in our glamour dressers because we want to be able to use the model for glamour across multiple roles but we have to deal with the role-lock?

The Blackbosom Reaper collection is a prime example.

The EXACT same model, 6 items. Can't be stored in the Armoire.

or The Firmament Crafting Glamour

LEVEL 1 ITEM This literally would have been a perfect candidate to allow other crafting jobs to get some cross role glamour. But nope. Have to be high level to obtain it, level 1 to use it? Bad decision FFXIV devs. Bad decision.

But 100% agree with OP, remove the glamour restriction. Let casters get some armor!

[Arrius]

It's annoying even if you have all of the variant pieces and space for them (unlikely), because if you assign one to a glamour plate you get an error with any other job using the same glamour plate because of an earring. Perhaps a suitably 'FFXIV' solution (i.e. an overly complicated one) would be to be able to exchange say, lv61 earrings with a shared model across all classes with a lv1 all-classes version? People would still farm to get the original item but the glamour version of the item would then be perfect for the dresser and the originals wouldn't clog up storage space forever.

(Obviously an actual Glamour list where you can permanently unlock things without limits and dump the original items is the ideal.)

Doing that would require to massively expand their database on accessories as they need to add a Level 1 'all classes' copy to each of them. I am not sure if their database can even manage that in the first place with copying every ring, yet alone accessories as a whole and even equipment. The query timers and the resulting loading delays would be insane.

[Larirawiel]

They already had a fix in place. Deciples of war and deciples of magic. Just put the split back in on all gear for glams.

It would be against their current policy: protect the players from bad decisions. If there would be the deciples of war/deciples of magic-split then it could happen, that tanks would equip dps gear and vice versa.


Cheers

[Serilda]

Doing that would require to massively expand their database on accessories as they need to add a Level 1 'all classes' copy to each of them. I am not sure if their database can even manage that in the first place with copying every ring, yet alone accessories as a whole and even equipment. The query timers and the resulting loading delays would be insane.

Then the opposite. Have gear with identical visuals be equippable by everyone and automatically change stats depending on class, preventing the 'tanks in DPS gear' conundrum from ever being an issue in the first place. They can do this because it's already the case for Menphina's earring (which is annoying as a set piece because it's technically a level 1 item and won't take any higher level glamours, but mechanically it's very convenient). It's dumbing down the game and reducing the need for people to farm, but the glamour/storage bloat from all of the identical-looking jewellery is insane.