AF gear already "obsolte"

[Meatdawg]

this is why I included the totals

how many cures does 120 mp buy you? I could always meld two +60 manathirst onto my cuirass, then where does that leave the PLD set? (or even better a +50 and a +70 because the outcome is more likely to be successful.) Personally, I'd much rather have VIT and HP on a cuirass, but I used MP for the sake of argument.

manathrist comes in +50,60,70 quantities now? sweet!

[syntaxlies]

Not in one slot, but if you 3x meld all your gear you can beat it, lets say you get lucky (or spend alot of gil) highest att power+ materia is +30, 3x meld that to hands and you have +90 att power, highest str is +20, 3x that to your weapon is +60, crit att power+ triple meld that on body (+50 each) is +150.

Thats:
att power+90
STR+60
crit att power+ 150

and PUG, GLA and ARC can put 3x INT or PIE on thier head, making +60 to those.

Beats darklight hands down.
ACC and DEX isnt really needed because we hardly miss anyway.

cant put piety on head and you should have dex on bard/archer for light shot.

[Angof]

But at the same time we were told AFs would be comparable or better than double melded current gear:



Which it's not, like Molly said.

Devs fucked up on their info. Sucks in a sense but it's also probably a good thing. AF is pretty easy to obtain with some help and far less time consuming, unless you're super lucky, than getting those double melds. I get why some of the vets of the game feel jipped because it is sub-par to gear they have obtained but I don't see how people are still complaining about this after two weeks.

Like I said AF is a stepping stone. If you skipped that stepping stone and the gear is crap for you, oh well sorry. But that doesn't mean the gear is crap for everyone.

[Kaizlu]

Most of us had full sets of double melds before AF gear was released, hence the complaining. (Hell I almost have a full double melded set of sentinel's gear which beats the living tar out of the PLD set. That's another story though because it's actually extremely time consuming to get that set.)

Now now, this is exaggerating.

I check people often (I'm curious!) and it's rare that I see someone with a full set of double melded gear. Like, really rare.

[Madruk]

Some darklight pieces are the equivalent of a 5 meld. BLM's won't be any happier with darklight though, most suck for them.

[Molly_Millions]

You understand the odds and cost of doing that lol?

Lets just say you have a better chance of darklight dropping....

Imo, this topic should revolve around only the particular pieces that suck ass, not af as a whole. For example, the WAR set is quite nice. Triple melds should beat AF because they are UBER-rare. We were told af would beat single melded gear at least, and one could reason that the quote above includes double melds as well. For the PLD set, every piece can be beaten by a single meld when you consider actual usefulness and not just looking at the numbers.

[Molly_Millions]

Now now, this is exaggerating.

I check people often (I'm curious!) and it's rare that I see someone with a full set of double melded gear. Like, really rare.

ok, then my LS mostly had double melded sets before af came out =/ I have 3 plate sets, and like 4 mage sets fully double melded.

[Meatdawg]

Imo, this topic should revolve around only the particular pieces that suck ass, not af as a whole. For example, the WAR set is quite nice. Triple melds should beat AF because they are UBER-rare. We were told af would beat single melded gear at least, and one could reason that the quote above includes double melds as well. For the PLD set, every piece can be beaten by a single meld when you consider actual usefulness and not just looking at the numbers.

Well that is because right now HP > anything else when tanking.

Unfortunately, SE believes a PLD should tank by holding hate with heals. Hence all the MND and +healing stats.

What SE thinks is good gear/stats doesn't always reflect what the community agrees with.

[Rokien]

yoshi said himself that af will be better than multi melded gear... soo idk what happened with that. ALSO for how easy it's to obtain, the stats are fine.

[Gortox]

Not in one slot, but if you 3x meld all your gear you can beat it, let’s say you get lucky (or spend a lot of gil) highest att power+ materia is +30, 3x meld that to hands and you have +90 att power, highest str is +20, 3x that to your weapon is +60, crit att power+ triple meld that on body (+50 each) is +150.

That’s:
att power+90
STR+60
crit att power+ 150

Sorry but I have to speak up against this, if anyone was to triple meld 3 PERFECT tier IV materia then they deserve to have that advantage/superior gear set.... Let alone doing that perfect triple meld three separate times. Anyway I don’t believe they have perfected the balance quite yet but it’s getting ever closer.