AF gear already "obsolte"

[Darkhaund]

I have been noticing on my server that Blackmages are not wearing the af hat anymore..

Seems a hat with double meld materis is better... so sad

[Molly_Millions]

Just look at the PLD set to see a set that was useless before it was introduced. Mage hat nothing, the whole PLD set blows goat balls.

Cobalt Cuirass (Red)
HP : +60,
Vit : +7,
Attack Power : +4

Gallant Surcoat
Enhances Cover
MP : +40 <== WTF is this about? A single cure 1 costs more than 40 mp.
Mnd : +12,
Healing Magic Potency : +3
Enmity : +3

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Cobalt Celata (Red)
HP : +45
Str : +3
Accuracy : +1

Gallant Coronet
Healing Magic Potency : +15
Enmity : +5
Mnd : +16,
MP : +20 <== again, another useless stat

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Cobalt Celata (Red)
HP : +45
Str : +3
Accuracy : +1

Gallant Gauntlets
Enhances Holy Succor ,
MP : +30, <== WTF were you thinking SE?
Vit : +2,
Enmity : +4

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Felt Trousers (Red)
HP : +23
Vit : +6
Str : +4

Gallant Cuisses
Enhances Divine Veil
Vit : +7
Mnd : +7,
MP : +10
Enmity : +2

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Cobalt Sabatons (Red)
HP : +30
Dex : +2
Vit : +2

Gallant Sollerets
Block Rate : +3
Vit : +2
MP : +20,
Enmity : +1



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cobalt totals
HP : +203,
Vit : +15,
Attack Power : +4
Str : +10
Accuracy : +2
Dex : +2


PLD set totals
Enhances Divine Veil
Enhances Cover
Enhances Holy Succor
Block Rate : +3
Vit : +11
MP : +120,
Enmity : +15
Mnd : +38,
Healing Magic Potency : +18


Bear in mind that none of this takes into account even a single meld, nor sentinel's gear or combinations of melds/sentinel's gear.

[Zantetsuken]

Just look at the PLD set to see a set that was useless before it was introduced. Mage hat nothing, the whole PLD set blows goat balls.[/I]

Though the individual MP bonuses are small, you also note that they add up to a respectable 120 MP which leads to my next point:

Rather than to survive via large HP reserves like WAR - the original concept is for PLD to be a 'healing focal point' in battles -- to be evaluated in tandem with WHM. The PLD abilities: Divine Veil, Cover, and Holy Succor (all enhanced by the AF) make this obvious. Additionally, since jobs are balanced for party play, It is important to view PLDs survivability when paired up with a competent WHM.

Since 1.21 hasn't been out long, it's easy to jump to conclusions based on PLD/Tank concepts from other games. In time, the more people play, the more they will become adjusted to the Cure-tank model and thus can provide more accurate feedback on it.

That said, if people prefer to not play the Cure-tank, they always have the option of equipping Bloodthirst loaded gear and play more GLD or even MRD-Style.

[Molly_Millions]

Though the individual MP bonuses are small, you also note that they add up to a respectable 120 MP which leads to my next point:

The original concept is for PLD to be a' healing focal point' in battles rather than to survive via large HP reserves (like WAR).

I think where they may have missed the mark is in the DEF area. Ideally, PLD should gain considerable DEF while WAR should lose some.

Still, 1.21 hasn't been out long, and the more people play, the more they will become adjusted to the Cure-tank model and can provide more accurate feedback on it.

this is why I included the totals

how many cures does 120 mp buy you? I could always meld two +60 manathirst onto my cuirass, then where does that leave the PLD set? (or even better a +50 and a +70 because the outcome is more likely to be successful.) Personally, I'd much rather have VIT and HP on a cuirass, but I used MP for the sake of argument.

[Meatdawg]

this is why I included the totals

how many cures does 120 mp buy you? I could always meld two +60 manathirst onto my cuirass, then where does that leave the PLD set? (or even better a +50 and a +70 because the outcome is more likely to be successful.) Personally, I'd much rather have VIT and HP on a cuirass, but I used MP for the sake of argument.

manathrist comes in +50,60,70 quantities now? sweet!

[DonMega]

Hopefully in the future we will get a way or ways to upgrade the JSE/AF gear, something that is worth while hopefully.

[DrekeLamorte]

Just look at the PLD set to see a set that was useless before it was introduced. Mage hat nothing, the whole PLD set blows goat balls.

cobalt totals
HP : +203,
Vit : +15,
Attack Power : +4
Str : +10
Accuracy : +2
Dex : +2


PLD set totals
Enhances Divine Veil
Enhances Cover
Enhances Holy Succor
Block Rate : +3
Vit : +11
MP : +120,
Enmity : +15
Mnd : +38,
Healing Magic Potency : +18


Bear in mind that none of this takes into account even a single meld, nor sentinel's gear or combinations of melds/sentinel's gear.

Your tanking priorities are seriously skewed and needs prioritizing. HP =/= god stat. Normally you seem to know what's what though, which is odd.

Let me direct you to a good read. Thumb through the nets, and try to figure out your class, not ignore everything it's good at because you'd rather PLD be WAR. http://kanican.livejournal.com/55915.html

[Colino]

Mostly every AF hat is useless. Bard gloves are also worthless since the stats are mediocre and the enhancement only works on the 15 minute song.

But then again it's free gear so who cares? I'd rather not have everyone dressed exactly the same anyway.

[Darkhaund]

well.. i guess i am one of those ppl that lkes to be on their "role" and seems sad that the NICE looking AF gear is worthless

[Nakiamiie]

well.. i guess i am one of those ppl that lkes to be on their "role" and seems sad that the NICE looking AF gear is worthless

It's not worthless, you don't like it, that's not the same.
If you feel like you HAVE TO be geared with the best equipment all the time, your problem. People doing Ifrit in santa suit have shown us that you DON'T need to be an elitist to experience the content successfully.
Do yourself a favour, wear your AF gear because you enjoy it and because it still IS great equipment.