Release a 16 person 4 hour long dungeon

[Delsus]

I love how people say "people couldn't stay for 4hrs" when the FFXI players know we did that in dynamis and in sky we would sometimes farm for 6-8hrs.

[Rydin]

I love how people say "people couldn't stay for 4hrs" when the FFXI players know we did that in dynamis and in sky we would sometimes farm for 6-8hrs.

yes but they've been trending the opposite direction based on this

[Delsus]

yes but they've been trending the opposite direction based on this

Yeah, Pandamonium Warden was the second hardest NM in the game, first was Absolute Virtue pre vanapocolipse (lvl cap rise) Absolute Virtue could only be beaten with exploits that got nerfed, and Pandamonium Warden got nerfed to make things like this 18hr fight not happen, The only reason SE nerfed PW was because of the possible law suites when people were forced to play that long to kill him.

[Rydin]

Yeah, Pandamonium Warden was the second hardest NM in the game, first was Absolute Virtue pre vanapocolipse (lvl cap rise) Absolute Virtue could only be beaten with exploits that got nerfed, and Pandamonium Warden got nerfed to make things like this 18hr fight not happen, The only reason SE nerfed PW was because of the possible law suites when people were forced to play that long to kill him.

Exactly.. and law suits scare companies... A LOT...
enough to make them go from one extreme to another....
Going from 18 hour multiple alliance fights to 25 minute, 8 man content

[Nexxus]

I love how people say "people couldn't stay for 4hrs" when the FFXI players know we did that in dynamis and in sky we would sometimes farm for 6-8hrs.

I didn't liked Dynamis, because it was to much farm for to long and so repetitively, in one word : boring.

What i miss from FFXI the most is, limbus, a whole lot of path, you can choose wich one you want and at the end once you've gathered last boss item from each path, you where able to do the mega boss and drop some awesome stuff.
And if you didn't want the awesome stuff, there was still the Ancient Beastcoin, the AFv1+1 items.
You were not able to spam it, as all others event, 3 day cooldown, so it took us month to gatherer all the Omega & Ultima pop item.
And it last only 1h~ / run, so much fun there, i hope to see that in FFXIV in a way.

[Jinko]

I love how people say "people couldn't stay for 4hrs" when the FFXI players know we did that in dynamis and in sky we would sometimes farm for 6-8hrs.

Yea but MMO's have moved away from that time sinky game play that we all used to play when we had nothing better to do, no family ties and didn't work for a living.