It's time to revaluate paper crown battlementors

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Mentors are not normal players[...]

You're putting the title on a pedestal. You're also describing toxicities that can also be exhibited by just anybody, not just mentors.

[...]Single them out and call them out then if it's just a few bad apples like you say.

What makes you think this is what SE wants us to do when they've been (for better or worse) pretty averse at naming any individuals specifically?

[Asako]

So you seen people acting like candy men and you didn't report them? Instead you're just going to blame all mentors and call it a done deal. Seems really professional.

[Bukachu]

Read your post. Then read the TOS. You cannot harrass anyone, sprout or not in this game. If are being harassed or see someone being harassed just report them. That is why the report system is there. The issue you describe over and over again isn't a toxic mentor issue, it's a toxic player issue. The way you keep making out this narrative is that non mentors can't be toxic.

Mentors are really not special players nor do they have any prestige. They have a badge that you can have beisde your name if you choose to show you are a mentor that you can turn off. I never have mine active, however it is forced on during mentor roulette. The special title is never used by anyone, I can't remember even seeing a single person with it on and the mount is one of the biggest grinds in the game unless you do the roulette once a day for 5 years. [2000 roulettes] I think this is fine for the amount of time that these mentors invest back into the game. I mean that is easily over 500 hours of helping others in combat content.

Please report all issues of toxicity and harrassment to the GMs. They are really quick on the ball in this game and do a great job.

False.

Mentors should be held to a higher standards than a random joe.

all toxicity is punished, yes, but some toxicity deserves harsher punishment, at the very least revoking mentor roles and not being able to become mentor again for next 1-2 years at least.

[Deceptus]

False.

Mentors should be held to a higher standards than a random joe.
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Maybe you think they should be, but the FFXIV Devs don't and this is their game / their rules.

[RobynDaBank]

Maybe you think they should be, but the FFXIV Devs don't and this is their game / their rules.

NGL I don't follow. Weren't they meant to be the "exemplar of good behaviour" or something?

[Raoabolic]

NGL I don't follow. Weren't they meant to be the "exemplar of good behaviour" or something?

True, but you are trying to heard a flock of cats rather than go directly to the owner of said cats and tell them to fix this mess. In other words, if you want it fixed then ask SE. Asking the playerbase is a pretty tall order, lol.

[Asako]

NGL I don't follow. Weren't they meant to be the "exemplar of good behaviour" or something?

Technically speaking this is what the devs believe all players should behave like. That's why we have support desk so players can report harassment and toxicity. For some reason on these forums non mentors seem to think it means they should all be perfect players and divulge all fight mechanics for every fight.

When you sign up to be a mentor it practically says to help sprouts and don't be toxic. That's it. Nothing about being held to a higher standard, nothing about what you have to do. Just do what you would normally do as a veteran player with common sense.

I kinda feel bad for most mentors, most of them trying to help others but get nothing but discrimination and hate on these forums for daring to display a mentor badge.

If people have a problem with mentors then just become one yourself and change the issues you think you are being done wrong. At this point I can only put it down to jealousy and that's sad.

[Jeeqbit]

It says...

As a mentor, you are expected to actively perform the following:

1. Provide gameplay advice for new adventurers and other players.
2. Be an exemplar for player etiquette.
3. Invite new adventurers to the Novice Network, and answer their queries in the chat channel.

• ※Inappropriate mentor behavior may be reported.

That implies providing gameplay advice in response to a request for advice, not to go around acting smart, nitpicking everyone. It asks mentors to be an examplar of player etiquette (polite), but everyone is already required to be polite.

[Asako]

It says...



That implies providing gameplay advice in response to a request for advice, not to go around acting smart, nitpicking everyone. It asks mentors to be an examplar of player etiquette (polite), but everyone is already required to be polite.

And most importantly the bottom line is the line a lot of the people complaining forget about. Report people who are acting like candy men. Instead of these people complaing about certain people being toxic they should just report them and let the GM's look into the issue. All chat logs are available to the GM's so they can track any issues.

[LisSquid]

You could remove the visual marker outside of content like Novice Network and Mentor Roulette. That would be sufficient enough of a change. A sprout isn't going to instantly go for the crowned player over the uncrowned for advice in the wild. They're just going to ask into the aether, and wait for someone to respond.