Who knew the 6.15 Omega Quests… (Spoilers)

[EaraGrace]

I'm not sure why you're using the idea of the repugnant conclusion (assuming you're quoting Derek Parfit here) when total utilitarianism, the idea he's tearing down, is generally rejected by philosophers in favor of variations on average utilitarianism.

I mostly meant it as a response to total utilitarianism and how one could justify the Sundering through that lens. For average you’d be right, but I think that comes with its own issues. One for example couldn’t justify fighting against the Rejoinings if that is indeed what we’re following, which might be a feature rather than bug to some.

The founding principle of utilitarianism as outlined by Jeremy Bentham is the greatest-happiness principle, which is the assertion that all ethics must be grounded in the imperative to create the most happiness and the least suffering for all sentient beings. Abundance of sentient life, either laterally or vertically (through time) is not valuable unless it serves that pursuit. Happiness is not a master to be served, but an emergent goal that comes with the existence of each new person, and the priority must always be on those who are extant as happy and free from suffering as possible. William Shaw puts it concisely: "Utilitarianism values the happiness of people, not the production of units of happiness".

It's not really compatible with Endwalker's value system.

Benthams flavor of hedonistic utilitarianism is probably the furthest you can get from Endwalkers, and 14 in general, moral view I can agree.

There was a reference incidentally that some of the creations in Elpis were specifically designed to be security guards for restricted or sensitive facilities (specifically, the minotaurs), which begs the question: why do they even need security guards in a supposedly 'perfect' world where hardship like war doesn't appear to exist?

I’d honestly love to know what exactly the Amaroutine security apparatus looks like. On one hand it’s suggested they don’t need guards, the need for creations to both guard Elpis and to counter the spreading Final Days, and on the other you have the seat of Pashtarot and it’s job to maintain order. Gets the noggin joggin.