Pvp is perfectly balanced as is.....

[MonteCristo]

Famitsu w/ yoshi - On CC, the devs plan to improve the Season ranking rewards since there was feedback that these have been underwhelming. There are also plans for an official tournament. The devs are currently fairly pleased with the job balance based on Season 2 data.

Wow....guess yall were right anyone not climbing is just trash since all jobs are perfectly balanced as is

[Ransu]

I mean, balance issues are not the reason why people can't climb lol. That said I don't think anyone here would agree with Yoshi that the pvp is perfectly balanced. His viewpoint on may be based on win rates, but that can be skewed easily based on pick rates and the win rates per tier. I'd chalk that statement up to being PR to keep people from being afraid to play pvp.

I've climbed to crystal twice now with zero issues and reached 1k pretty casually in season 1. If you're half decent you'll reach crystal, especially since you can't fall out of a tier you unlock. If you can't reach the higher tiers then....well, the truth hurts, you're just not that good.

[MonteCristo]

I mean, balance issues are not the reason why people can't climb lol. That said I don't think anyone here would agree with Yoshi that the pvp is perfectly balanced. His viewpoint on may be based on win rates, but that can be skewed easily based on pick rates and the win rates per tier. I'd chalk that statement up to being PR to keep people from being afraid to play pvp.

I've climbed to crystal twice now with zero issues and reached 1k pretty casually in season 1. If you're half decent you'll reach crystal, especially since you can't fall out of a tier you unlock. If you can't reach the higher tiers then....well, the truth hurts, you're just not that good.

You genuinely believe this applies to all jobs? Climbing is equal for all jobs to crystal and if u cant reach it u suck?

[Ransu]

You genuinely believe this applies to all jobs? Climbing is equal for all jobs to crystal and if u cant reach it u suck?

I reached crystal with mostly playing bard, so yes.

[GordonGeeko]

I'd be very curious to hear what other job than reaper could be considered hard to get to Crystal.

[Petite]

I'd be very curious to hear what other job than reaper could be considered hard to get to Crystal.

RPR isn't hard to get into Crystal. I climbed on my alt from scratch this season and I'm currently sitting in Diamond 4 with around 45 wins solely using RPR.

Once you stop thinking RPR is just about damage because it's a DPS, the job makes more sense.

[GordonGeeko]

RPR isn't hard to get into Crystal. I climbed on my alt from scratch this season and I'm currently sitting in Diamond 4 with around 45 wins. Once you stop thinking RPR is just about damage because it's a DPS, the job makes more sense.

I don't want to go too much into details on it, because I'm avoiding playing that job like the plague, so I'd be mostly speaking out of my a**. I've just seen so many people struggle to do anything significant with it outside of some game-changing Overtime plays or maybe some well-timed Guard breaks with their LBs.

At one point, if all the reapers I see are low damage, low kills, high deaths, low HP restored, few significant LBs, I start to doubt that everyone is just bad at it and think that maybe the job is just not that great. It doesn't look like an easy climb to Crystal to me, but I'm not saying it's an impossible one.

[MonteCristo]

I don't want to go too much into details on it, because I'm avoiding playing that job like the plague, so I'd be mostly speaking out of my a**. I've just seen so many people struggle to do anything significant with it outside of some game-changing Overtime plays or maybe some well-timed Guard breaks with their LBs.

At one point, if all the reapers I see are low damage, low kills, high deaths, low HP restored, few significant LBs, I start to doubt that everyone is just bad at it and think that maybe the job is just not that great. It doesn't look like an easy climb to Crystal to me, but I'm not saying it's an impossible one.

I have been playing reaper exclusively since new pvp dropped and it has been hell to say the least....i just didnt lead with my main when i started this discussion because there are other issues more important than just reaper and to read "dev team is ok with season 2 balance" leads me to believe this might be close to definitive.

[Petite]

I don't want to go too much into details on it, because I'm avoiding playing that job like the plague, so I'd be mostly speaking out of my a**. I've just seen so many people struggle to do anything significant with it outside of some game-changing Overtime plays or maybe some well-timed Guard breaks with their LBs.

At one point, if all the reapers I see are low damage, low kills, high deaths, low HP restored, few significant LBs, I start to doubt that everyone is just bad at it and think that maybe the job is just not that great. It doesn't look like an easy climb to Crystal to me, but I'm not saying it's an impossible one.

I used to think the same way you do. Over my time on RPR, I started noticing my misconceptions about how to gauge how well someone performed on it:

- Low damage is expected because it almost exclusively comes from single-target attacks. SCH and SGE deal monstrous amounts of damage, yet you woulnd't say they're OP for it?
- Kills is a mediocre metric to gauge contribution. Seeing a NIN or MNK with a low kill count is much more of a cause for concern.
- LB can single-handedly win matches in the right situations, though it's still easier said than done (especially with this netcode).

A high death count is a definite red flag though. RPR is tanky and can teleport out of harms way very easily. You shouldn't be dying often, even on losing teams.

Most RPRs are bad because they treat it like it's a DRG or SAM and don't bother looking for its gameplan. Being a DRG main, I can confidently say that RPR has a lot going for it.

[MonteCristo]

RPR isn't hard to get into Crystal. I climbed on my alt from scratch this season and I'm currently sitting in Diamond 4 with around 45 wins solely using RPR.

Once you stop thinking RPR is just about damage because it's a DPS, the job makes more sense.

Im at diamond 4 as well and well aware its a hybrid tank at this point. Ffxiv Pvp is not complicated...