Glamour restrictions: a hinderance to creativity

[Darthgummibear]

You seem to not understand how these Internet forums work.
Let me explain:

First, "me too" posts are generally discouraged as not contributing anything new.
Instead, there's a "Like" button for signaling agreement. And people use it.

So, if responding just to agree is discouraged, what responses are you likely to get?
Well, sometimes you might get an elaboration, tangent, or query regarding your post.
But more often, you get a post that disagrees with what you posted.
Someone who wants to correct you because they think you're wrong.

It's not "bad faith." It's the norm, the preferred behavior even.
If you're going to continue posting, you should get used to it.

I'm not talking about people in general, just this one poster in particular. They have a history of low-key trying to start arguments and it was getting on my nerves.

[Silverbane]

I'm not talking about people in general, just this one poster in particular. They have a history of low-key trying to start arguments and it was getting on my nerves.

This says more about you than about them, and not to your credit.
You're attacking them in the forums because they "get on your nerves."
What do you think that will accomplish, other than possibly providing them with schadenfreude?

Try just yelling a few choice obscenities at the screen when they post, rather than clicking "Post Reply."
Or mutter the obscenities, if there are others nearby. Either way, it might be more productive.

[Darthgummibear]

This says more about you than about them, and not to your credit.
You're attacking them in the forums because they "get on your nerves."
What do you think that will accomplish, other than possibly providing them with schadenfreude?

Try just yelling a few choice obscenities at the screen when they post, rather than clicking "Post Reply."
Or mutter the obscenities, if there are others nearby. Either way, it might be more productive.

Whatever you say. I have every right to be annoyed and I'm tired of pretending.

[Moebious]

Would be nice if you just needed to have reached the jobs' level for said item, and then could pair it with literal any other job, and mix match from other jobs' too
And that the ilvl of the glamour wouldn't be problem, as long your lvl for said job had been achieved. Such a shame to see your glam break when you put on your kirin/elemental armor, for Eureka tours, because ilvl of kirin armor is below that of the glam preset might be, if lvl 80+ gear used as glam preset.

Of course, if they simply turned every new piece of glamour, first time you receive it, as some sort of catalogue glamour item(akin to replicate) ilvl 1, that would also solve those problems, along with saving us having to store said items, since once first time received, they would be stored into our glamour storage per automatic, reducing our retainer storage needs to save up potential glam items, while our glam storage is capped.

[Bobby66]

Nobody said anything about an echo chamber. You are arguing just for the sake of arguing.

Why would anyone willfully say they simply want an echo chamber, your posts reflect that is your desire. For peep sake you got annoyed because I said I like BDO. Your posts imo seem to reflect that your preference is to have people agree with you. Any sense of disagreement is considered bad faith or pointless.

TBF you did started this simply because you just do not like the stance that some people have a preference for glamour restrictions. You legit are annoyed with me because I disagree with your stance and in your eyes it is in bad faith because in your opinion I have no good reason to be against it and I am being selfish. Though in my eyes when it comes to my own personal enjoyment of a video being selfish is okay, cause if I do not enjoy the game why bother to play? So I will advocate for features that I personally find enjoyable, and I encourage others to do th same. Does not mean they have to good ideas, or even practical ones. Nor does it mean they will even be considered. Many may think they are dumb are pointless and that is fine everyone is free to agree or disagree. What I am saying is people should not be attacked because they disagree with someone, for the most part all you have done is told me to piss off because you do not like the fact I do not agree with your stance.

Also history? That seems like a stretch.

[Lihtleita]

For peep sake

is this an actual thing ppl say

[Darthgummibear]

Would be nice if you just needed to have reached the jobs' level for said item, and then could pair it with literal any other job, and mix match from other jobs' too
And that the ilvl of the glamour wouldn't be problem, as long your lvl for said job had been achieved. Such a shame to see your glam break when you put on your kirin/elemental armor, for Eureka tours, because ilvl of kirin armor is below that of the glam preset might be, if lvl 80+ gear used as glam preset.

Of course, if they simply turned every new piece of glamour, first time you receive it, as some sort of catalogue glamour item(akin to replicate) ilvl 1, that would also solve those problems, along with saving us having to store said items, since once first time received, they would be stored into our glamour storage per automatic, reducing our retainer storage needs to save up potential glam items, while our glam storage is capped.

Yeah something akin to either wow's or eso's catalog would be great. I don't mind the level restrictions so much simply because that would require you to at least level the associated job in order to use the glam for it. The eureeka scenario as annoying as it can be is pretty unique in that regard.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Yes, but the reason for keeping the original items class-locked is technical. It stops people from being able to equip the thing that doesn't belong to their class when it's "real gear" with stats. Make a level 1 replica that is only suited for glamour instead, and that is not an issue any more. The decision becomes just whether they want that appearance to be restricted or not.

It's what I think we should be pushing for rather than a blanket unlock. There are clearly some designs they want to keep restricted, but they should be increasing the amount of replicas they give us. I'd like to get one set each patch like they do for fully new glamours.

The phrase "technical limitation" implies that there is a an actual limitation in the game code that prevents the devs from making a change. Keeping the original items class locked is a choice, not a "technical limitation".

[Hopebot]

I dont understand the whole concept that allowing all gear to be used by everyone doesn't give an infinitely larger amount of creativity. Maybe its just Machinists but, literally 90% of other machinists I see use the Neo ishgardian + random other pieces, a cowboy look, or the basic machinist coat look, or the Officer hat military look.

Like it was a godsend just to get the clown top-hat so I could hide the nose and use it as part of an English spy type glam.

[LisSquid]

I dont understand the whole concept that allowing all gear to be used by everyone doesn't give an infinitely larger amount of creativity. Maybe its just Machinists but, literally 90% of other machinists I see use the Neo ishgardian + random other pieces, a cowboy look, or the basic machinist coat look, or the Officer hat military look.

Some people are afraid that if we aren't given SE assigned outfits then we will all be running around in panties, stockings, and a bikini top. Oh, wait. We can already do that. Be assured that a Paladin wearing a skirt would be too silly, though. /s