Glamour restrictions: a hinderance to creativity

[Bobby66]

This is a fallacious argument and you know it. What you are describing is a closer allegory to learning how to draw with a No. 2 pencil before having access to a Cintiq tablet, whereas in both scenarios you still have the full creative freedom that a real world scenario would entail. A gross oversimplification of the glamour situation likened to your example would be more like "You can paint, but your only tool is forever limited to testor cerulean blue. You can never use other paints or colors because reasons."

Homie was not meant to be an argument. I was simply stating I like working with restrictions and if I had to vote I would always vote for more restrictions.

That being said I have done fun projects where I limit myself to certain colors or one medium. I made a cool shirt design with bleach dye on a black shirt. Thank you for the idea though I will try to do something with a mono color.

I while I am in favor of restrictions and if they removed them I would still impose my own. So not like I will lose sleep over them being lifted. I would still vote no though.

[Tehmon]

Homie was not meant to be an argument. I was simply stating I like working with restrictions and if I had to vote I would always vote for more restrictions.

That being said I have done fun projects where I limit myself to certain colors or one medium. I made a cool shirt design with bleach dye on a black shirt. Thank you for the idea though I will try to do something with a mono color.

I while I am in favor of restrictions and if they removed them I would still impose my own. So not like I will lose sleep over them being lifted. I would still vote no though.

'' This change would have absolutely no effect on me but nevertheless I still don't want others to have it either ''

W H A T

[Raikai]

Homie was not meant to be an argument. I was simply stating I like working with restrictions and if I had to vote I would always vote for more restrictions.

That being said I have done fun projects where I limit myself to certain colors or one medium. I made a cool shirt design with bleach dye on a black shirt. Thank you for the idea though I will try to do something with a mono color.

I while I am in favor of restrictions and if they removed them I would still impose my own. So not like I will lose sleep over them being lifted. I would still vote no though.

If restrictions being lifted would not impact on your experience whatsoever (especially because it's a cosmetic feature), why do you even bother to be so vocal against the idea?

Resources being allocated to something you don't like? This is a conudrum that a game like XIV will always have.

[GeminiReed]

How exactly is this in their best interest? Are players leaving in droves? Sure it is one of the most requested features but even so not much changes from SE PoV if they add it or do not add it. I doubt such an change would increase player retention by a statically relevant margin.

Unlikely to cause an exodus but it is an irritant. Ever hear of "Death by 1,000 cuts"? Well this one counts for several of those.

I consider FF:XIV the best well managed MMO's available. While it compares favorably to its peers it's absolutely abysmal compared to the larger enterprise software industry. Sooner or later somebody's going to figure this out in the MMO space and do it better. That's the day XIV's advantage collapses. Companies ignore QoL requests at their peril. Blizzard is still learning that lesson, sad to see FF:XIV follow in those footsteps.

[Raikai]

Unlikely to cause an exodus but it is an irritant. Ever hear of "Death by 1,000 cuts"? Well this one counts for several of those.

I consider FF:XIV the best well managed MMO's available. While it compares favorably to its peers it's absolutely abysmal compared to the larger enterprise software industry. Sooner or later somebody's going to figure this out in the MMO space and do it better. That's the day XIV's advantage collapses. Companies ignore QoL requests at their peril. Blizzard is still learning that lesson, sad to see FF:XIV follow in those footsteps.

Honeslty I left WoW in 2018 and one of the big reasons were the quality of the items available to players. Bland item models, questionable art direction (imo) lack of dyeing system. Companies (and some players) underestimate the capacity that cosmetic systems have to impact the audience.

I just checked the latest news of the next expansion there and alas, on that front, it's still a pain. I don't know how in 2022 they still use that ugly af tube model for long skirts, and a lot of stuff is still painted-on textures when they already have the capacity to do much better.

[Darthgummibear]

Homie was not meant to be an argument. I was simply stating I like working with restrictions and if I had to vote I would always vote for more restrictions.

That being said I have done fun projects where I limit myself to certain colors or one medium. I made a cool shirt design with bleach dye on a black shirt. Thank you for the idea though I will try to do something with a mono color.

I while I am in favor of restrictions and if they removed them I would still impose my own. So not like I will lose sleep over them being lifted. I would still vote no though.

So not only do you double down on your fallacious argument(and deliberately miss the point), but you go the extra step of saying you have no stake in the game and don't want anyone else to have fun either. Wow. Just wow. I fear for the future of humanity.

[Bobby66]

So not only do you double down on your fallacious argument(and deliberately miss the point), but you go the extra step of saying you have no stake in the game and don't want anyone else to have fun either. Wow. Just wow. I fear for the future of humanity.

What I am saying is what I said was not intended to be an argument. Cannot double down on something that it was not meant to be. I am not trying to sway anyone from their stance I was just voicing my own personal stance on the subject. More or less what I was saying is I like the color blue because x. Not I like the color blue because x and so should you. I know it is the internet, but not everything is an argument.

I also doubt my vote is preventing anyone from having fun or by any means has any say in What SE does.

Unlikely to cause an exodus but it is an irritant. Ever hear of "Death by 1,000 cuts"? Well this one counts for several of those.

I consider FF:XIV the best well managed MMO's available. While it compares favorably to its peers it's absolutely abysmal compared to the larger enterprise software industry. Sooner or later somebody's going to figure this out in the MMO space and do it better. That's the day XIV's advantage collapses. Companies ignore QoL requests at their peril. Blizzard is still learning that lesson, sad to see FF:XIV follow in those footsteps.

Really do not think that will be the case for FFXIV within the time frame before they hit maintenance mode I think the SE does enough right and has an IP that can carry it for a time, I do agree with time many of the issues like housing, lack of depth among healers, tanks, and certain, lack of customization options will impact their bottom line if a product does come out that nails the story aspect and has those options. I just do not see that being a thing for a time. The mmo landscape is ripe for innovations and I look forward to future projects. Though I think the core gameplay itself will be the factor that will lead to FFXIV's death more so over the other features I mentioned. Tab target mmo's do feel dated.

If restrictions being lifted would not impact on your experience whatsoever (especially because it's a cosmetic feature), why do you even bother to be so vocal against the idea?

Resources being allocated to something you don't like? This is a conudrum that a game like XIV will always have.

It is a public forum so I was simply stating how I feel, and how I would vote. Not sure why having a differing view seems to bother people so much. If it happens so be that is life, that said I can see have a desired outcome and still put my two cents for that outcome. Even if I do not have a dog in the race or it will not greatly impact me does not mean I should just go along with something I do not want.

[Flaws]

How exactly is this in their best interest?

Another point is that freeing the glam will ensure that any new jobs/roles that get introduced in the future will always have a wide, ever-expanding selection of glam available. If we look at the 4 newest jobs in the game (GNB, DNC, RPR, SGE), they are completely screwed in terms of glam and have to mostly rely on their AF gear and maybe 2-3 other sets of gear at best, if they're lucky. As they expand roles by adding more jobs with entirely different aesthetics to each other they are trapping themselves in a situation where they have to design gear with all jobs in that role in mind, which just simply won't hold long term (and it literally doesn't now either). In fact its getting worse with each expansion as new jobs are being added and older glam fits the new jobs less and less.

...for example.

[Raikai]

...for example.

As a DNC main, is a struggle to find aiming items that fit the aesthetic, when a Dancer could make perfect use of flowy Cast/Healer items and even some Scouting things are more appropriate for the job. Just glancing at that new 6.2 Screenshot from Troia, the lalafell BRD is wearing something that looks like NONE of the 3 aiming jobs, lol... It's a tattered robe with something resembling a ninja hood.

I honestly can see more people leveling jobs that they don't have yet to access their armor glams - which means either more play time or more mogstation level boosters.

[Darthgummibear]

I was just voicing my own personal stance on the subject

Your own personal stance on the subject being you don't actually care, but you don't want anyone else to have it either...which is total garbage. Seriously. Piss off.