Put an actual fix to Housing 1.0 - not another more ward thread.

[Sotaris]

I always like how you can tell who owns an entire ward and who doesnt in these threads

I think it’s more like a principle that you shouldn’t be retroactive be punished for following the rules.

[Silverbane]

I always like how you can tell who owns an entire ward and who doesnt in these threads

Only in your dreams, Oizen. Only in your dreams.

[LaylaTsarra]

I always like how you can tell who owns an entire ward and who doesnt in these threads

And who are those might I ask who own entire wards here? Nothing like making up stuff in your mind to suit your agenda. People who buy houses on other servers play alts there and interact with more than one data center. Being in one spot is boring but you do you. At least with DC travel you can now visit some of those without an alt but that wasn't always the case and you still are restricted to regional visitations.

I don't think anyone here supports FC abuse and it's on SE to fix and stop it. They've had plenty of time to do it but for whatever reason it's still a problem. Whitewashing the community who doesn't agree with the OP's constant trolling when it comes to taking things away from people who did nothing wrong isn't going to be given a free pass.

SE makes the rules. People who play this game should follow them. The intent is one FC and one Personal per server and that is PER SERVER until they elect to change it or to even go so far as restrict it to one house per account. It's on them to act and expecting them to retroactively apply new rules isn't going to happen.

[UkcsAlias]

Oh my god how many people are gonna get this wrong, it is one house per server not DC. How is it so many people that want to suggest changes to housing and esp ask for houses removed from people don't know fully the rules of housing. One person having an entire ward sucks but it's a drop in the bucket of demand for houses. Taking their houses won't fix the issue.

The limited housing is a server load issue, someone taking up a ward is taking excessive load. Solving this is a mandatory fix on that as it opens up housing to more people. It might not be enough, but especialy with limited resources, doing these things can matter.
And note, while i said DC instead of server, note that server only amplifies my statement since it indicates it worse than what i stated. And this safer choise can just be done since i cant be bothered looking up every single detail. I know there is a limit based on something like a server, and that was more than enough.

And ward takeovers can be considered an exploit. Even if you used multiple accounts to achieve this. First note that even if an exploit isnt documented, or was ignored for a while, they can still decide to punish for it. EULAs almost always give this option available as it simply means the game dev keeps themselve in control. It doesnt matter that you used multiple accounts for this, and it doesnt even matter that you have 1 house per account. Since in this case its very clear that whatever you did is clearly breaking balance. As single person its unrealistic to expect them to have 10+ accounts, with 8 chars on each of them. And then still being able to normaly play the game. Those accounts are purely made for breaking the system.

It goes even further, as you already notice, frustration about the housing system are clear, and its very clear which sort of players are a major issue. Such behaviour can also be considered part of the abusive behaviour. And again gives SE an option to act against it without any need to change any rules otherwise. Its all about interpretation here, and the overal experience.

And why do we need to know every single detail when clear troublemakers are openly visible anyway?

[Frizze]

I always like how you can tell who owns an entire ward and who doesnt in these threads

Wait, how many people do you think own whole wards? The grandfathered exception houses account for less then 1% of housing per server(a number that can never go up because it is no longer possible for them to purchase more houses). Off the top of my head i can only think of the mateus couple who own a whole ward who would qualify as "grandfathered" houses. Shell FCs are a different problem, but last time someone did a serious count they were still only around 3% - no where near as widespread as some people seem to believe.

[Nepentha]

1. No. Further restricting access to housing isn't the answer. It causes more issues than it solves and SE has shown they are reluctant to actually police anything or enforce the ToS anyway.

2. Agreed on this one. I'd love to have more control over furniture placement.

3. This will not happen, find another talking point.

4. Item expansion in houses would be lovely, and I'd love it if they communicated with us why slots are restricted as they are and if they can fix that in the future and if not, why not.

5. It would be excellent to be able to share your personal house with your alts. But again, more restrictions on housing access is a hard no from me.

6. This one I'm not even sure about, no opinion.

7. Invest in more instanced housing options. Expand apartments to be larger than a bread box, have options that allow people to purchase them in sizes that match medium and large houses.

8. Invest in Island Sanctuaries to include an instanced house of some sort if they aren't already planning to go that route eventually.

[Jojoya]

I always like how you can tell who owns an entire ward and who doesnt in these threads

And who would those posters be?

I know of a couple of infrequent posters who own entire wards (or at least an equivalent number of plots spread across multiple wards) but one hasn't posted in probably 8-9 months (unless they're doing it on a new forum avatar) and the other one hasn't posted in this thread.

Are you suspecting me just because I'm against removing grandfathering? Sorry to disappoint you. I have my medium personal and my small FC (while my FC is mostly me it does have other player members and I also invite players looking for temporary homes while they try to find a FC they feel is a good long term fit). That's all I have for houses. I've got opportunities with my characters on other data centers to get a house but I don't because I know me taking another house means one less player able to get one.

On the other hand, I have played other games where the developers would take away earned rewards from players and saw what that would end up doing to the player base and the game in general. It's never worked out for the better. I don't want to see it happen here.

People like you can only think of a single solution - take things away from others so you can have what you want. Be damned to what anyone else wants.

I can think of a better solution - SE fix the system so every player could be a multiple house owner if they want. That's far better than taking things away. We know it's possible. We watch other games do it.

I hate being a broken record but we need to stop blaming other players, stop punishing other players for a failure on SE's part not the player's.

[VerdeLuck]

I always like how you can tell who owns an entire ward and who doesnt in these threads

There are definitely some posters you see regularly who pop up and love to tell anyone without a house why they either don't deserve a house or actually don't want one, they just don't know it yet.
Honestly just transition to a system where you pay a little extra on your sub if you have a house, and more for multiples, to fund the hardware on housing area expansions. People can still have their dumb private RP wards, and it won't feel like such a slap in the face to get objectively less game than other people for the same monthly sub for those of us who aren't lucky enough to get even a single house.

[Pablomaldito]

Let us take a moment to salute the hero at house #27

[UkcsAlias]

5. It would be excellent to be able to share your personal house with your alts. But again, more restrictions on housing access is a hard no from me.

Making this feature only available when you only have 1 house is a fair enough way. You do not punish those owners as they dont lose anything. But they can definitely miss out on this feature that way, and get motivated to get rid of their 2nd house.

Its these small things that over time can add up and do quite a bit.

For multiple house owners, making farming less effective is on that just another way to achieve this result. And while this might actualy 'punish' them, do note that those without house are punished significantly harder.

Instanced housing sounds nice, but note that houses are already instanced (hence there is the chance you cant enter your house as others are already inside theirs)... its just that the ward isnt.