That part with Y'shtola, and her answer being framed as valid and heroic, always seemed hilarious to me in context of everything else. I just imagine the equivalent scene with the Ancients, with Venat outright saying to them, "Listen to me, I can confirm this through hearing reports from other stars! Continuing to pursue perfection will only lead to our destruction and ruin! It happened to them and it will happen to you!" and getting the answer "We don't care, lmao." And Venat immediately melts, defeated.

Endwalker really feels like it has no idea what it's even trying to say no small amount of the time.