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  1. #11
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    Kaliesto's Avatar
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Brynhildr
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I've seen Ninjas always reaching max in their rank on Frontlines very quickly, and they're almost nearly impossible to defeat.
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  2. #12
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    Lustre's Avatar
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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    There are plenty of ways to kill someone as MCH. There are bursts that pretty much cannot be survived if Guard isn\\'t up
    Not anymore in FL. You can dump your entire kit including a LB onto someone and unless it's a 0BH healer, they'll probably survive if they know how to use Recuperate. Especially so if it's a tank, or extra damage tank (melee)
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  3. #13
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    Issaella's Avatar
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    Emmylou Sugarbean
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    Famfrit
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    Summoner Lv 40
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    There are plenty of ways to kill someone as MCH. There are bursts that pretty much cannot be survived if Guard isn't up
    Sure there is. You can hit them with Drill when they are sub-20%, or AA when they are sub-25%, or your LB when they are sub-30%, or you LB + AA or Drill when they are sub 50%. Or if you are on AA you might be able to kill them if they are sub-60% if you AA+Saw+LB if, and only if they are too slow to use a Recup between the GCDs.

    One thing is for sure. You are not going to 100-0 anyone, ever, unless they are afk.
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  4. #14
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    Elfidan's Avatar
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    Character
    Elfidan Gadfor
    World
    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    1.)Remove all jobs except WHM
    2.)Make Limit Break into a Fan AOE
    3.)wait for complaints about WHM being too powerful
    4.)Profit?
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  5. #15
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    Vatom's Avatar
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    Vatom Basilisk
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    remove MCH instead
    You still crying about McH lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    1.)Remove all jobs except WHM
    2.)Make Limit Break into a Fan AOE
    3.)wait for complaints about WHM being too powerful
    4.)Profit?
    You discuss me but I love this post lol
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    Free the Glam!, Duel Pistols (Gunner)?

  6. #16
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    AnnRam's Avatar
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    Mint Goh
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    I've seen Ninjas always reaching max in their rank on Frontlines very quickly, and they're almost nearly impossible to defeat.

    Because the ridiculous defense buff (60% for melee jobs and 30% for ranges iirc) turned everyone in to a Tank meanwhile guard makes things worse.

    This happened because instead of nerfing SMN LB in FL SE for no logic reason decided to buff them even more until the current patch arrived making SMN completely useless I mean even if 5 bahamuths lands in your head you aren't going to lose more than 40% of your HP.

    Current PVP FL wouldn't be a snore fest if guard don't reduce the incoming damage anymore and just protect you from CC.

    Tanks (PLD/DRK) are so annoying l/unkilleable that abusing NIN it's the only way to stop them.
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  7. #17
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    Ravenwatch's Avatar
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    Hidden Street
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    There are plenty of ways to kill someone as MCH. There are bursts that pretty much cannot be survived if Guard isn't up
    Care to elaborate on this unstoppable and magical combo?
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  8. #18
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    Vatom Basilisk
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenwatch View Post
    Care to elaborate on this unstoppable and magical combo?
    Wild fire drill(A) shotgun with the 2hits easy
    WF 2 tap LB easy
    mortar bio (let them tic a bit) shot gun (if 50%) moderate
    mortar bio heated shot air anchor hard since people can spam heal but if distracted it become a silent melter
    drill(A) shotgun(dbl) LB easy if not many are around
    chainsaw proc (Pray)

    these are the ones I saw succeed at least could be some better ones out there
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    Free the Glam!, Duel Pistols (Gunner)?

  9. #19
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    SenzorialBoundries's Avatar
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    Character
    Polaris Sonata
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Anyone who says pvp is balanced has never played any other pvp ever. Sure its very fun but the balancing of the jobs is..i rather not use too strong of a word. You have ninja with 75% slow, 4s stunlock, execute untargeted mobility which means its also a disengange, self heal self shield with no condition/downside and ranged attacks and on the other side you have dark knight that kills itself to do actual dmg and gunbreaker that has...well nothing.
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  10. #20
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries View Post
    Anyone who says pvp is balanced has never played any other pvp ever. Sure its very fun but the balancing of the jobs is..i rather not use too strong of a word. You have ninja with 75% slow, 4s stunlock, execute untargeted mobility which means its also a disengange, self heal self shield with no condition/downside and ranged attacks and on the other side you have dark knight that kills itself to do actual dmg and gunbreaker that has...well nothing.
    You're not being too truthful. The slow, the stun, the self heal, the self shield, AND all the ranged attacks save for the shuriken are all Mudras. You can only use 2 of them at any given time, and in most cases you're not touching the slow, the heal, or the shield. You're touching either the ice daggers or the stun, because it's more important to KILL your target quickly. Hell, I'd argue that all the other Mudras are downright useless for that exact reason in CC.
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