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  1. #151
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    Aneshda's Avatar
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    Deidrea Shadowbane
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I thought it was a perfect example of people not giving a shit

    You missed the part where they're subbed for another 80 days with 9 retainers. One does not simply walk away from that
    When SE said Endwalker will be delayed by 2 weeks, I only had 3 days of game time left at the time of the release date.
    I played FFX 14 before because of the story and thought to myself "Just buy yourself game time for months, in this case 10 months" what can go wrong?
    I didn't know Endwalker was going to be that bad. Wherever it was hyped by the release video, before that there were teaser videos, we travel to the moon YAY!
    The sky is burning, so many monsters... Zenos, our enemy, is fighting against us with so many monsters in the background... it can only be great.
    Or maybe not.
    It was a lame story and Dynamis, Meteion and her sisters... what to make of that?
    Then this needless killing of Zenos because SE was too lazy to write a story for him.
    No we had to kill him because he's too dangerous... but in return we let the little blue bird fly away.
    The only thing missing was that we waved goodbye. It just doesn't fit together.
    (6)
    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

  2. #152
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    aveyond-dreams's Avatar
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    Fenris Pendragon
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    There was definitely a chance to do something more interesting with Zenos, including a potential situation for him to join the party and force the scions to work with him. Despite my general dislike of his character, this would’ve added an interesting dynamic to the party and may have even redeemed him to a limited degree if something of greater substance was actually done with him besides merely being the protagonist’s foil.
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  3. #153
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    I wonder who will be featured on the next poster in 7.0? We've already killed all the bad guys. Will it only be the Scions? Whoever it will be, we know he or she will die or is already dead.
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

  4. #154
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    Silverbane's Avatar
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aneshda View Post
    Then this needless killing of Zenos because SE was too lazy to write a story for him.
    No we had to kill him because he's too dangerous...
    At the end of our fight with Zenos, to me, he didn't seem any deader than we were.
    Plus, he's already demonstrated that he can transcend death.
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  5. #155
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    There was definitely a chance to do something more interesting with Zenos, including a potential situation for him to join the party and force the scions to work with him. Despite my general dislike of his character, this would’ve added an interesting dynamic to the party and may have even redeemed him to a limited degree if something of greater substance was actually done with him besides merely being the protagonist’s foil.
    After being constantly interrupted and kept from what he wanted, Zenos -was- eventually forced to cooperate and neither side cared for it. It didn't need to go any further than it did or happen any earlier. No redemption was needed. Plenty of characters (good and bad) have found redemption.
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 08-02-2022 at 03:25 PM.

  6. #156
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    Rhia Nara
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Zenos in EW just felt so wasted. He was around, but the story would have gone the same, if he wasn't. We didn't need to ride on him to beat Endsinger.
    It honestly felt to me, like they had plans for him, which ultimately didn't make the cut.
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  7. #157
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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    I was so disappointed when Zenos didnt just straight up kill a scion using the WoL as a weapon. That wouldve been an amazing plot point but instead nothing happens lol. it feels like they had a really exciting plot in place, then 2/3rds through development decided to shed anything risque and make it all soft and safe instead
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  8. #158
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treesus View Post
    Unfortunate my gigabrain plan of starting a mini war over drinks to distract people from hating the game was found out. I would have gotten away with it too if it wasent for that darn catgirl!
    Scooby dooby DOOOOOOOO!
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  9. #159
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I'm indifferent to the story. There are emotionally impactful elements to it for sure. It has highs and lows, but ultimately I have little overall investment into it. Fact of the matter is the amount of time spent questing, especially in regards to the MSQ is such a significantly small fraction in comparison to what fills out the rest of my daily activities. IOW, we spend a far greater amount of time just being adventurers than we do being the WoL, and it is the adventuring portion that has my commitment.

    That's why I loved it so much when Zenos finally appealed to my adventuring side in order to finally get me to fight him, and why I enjoyed him so much as a character and villain. He made me want to get stronger far more than any ilv patch that has come about through FFXIV lifespan. I really wish the devs would of gave us the option to respond to him, "You can only beat me in a scripted fight." With Zenos responding, "We'll see, adventurer." That would have been so perfect.

    Anywho, it is also cumbersome because in order to enjoy the MSQ at my own pace, I have to avoid any FFXIV related content on the internet so I don't catch a spoiler. So don't get me wrong, I do enjoy doing the MSQ and I wish it could capture me more. There is just no way that will ever happen though due to the game's own circumstances.
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  10. #160
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    Xianthi Rongalla
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    There was definitely a chance to do something more interesting with Zenos, including a potential situation for him to join the party and force the scions to work with him. Despite my general dislike of his character, this would’ve added an interesting dynamic to the party and may have even redeemed him to a limited degree if something of greater substance was actually done with him besides merely being the protagonist’s foil.
    Yes Im sure loads of players wouldve loved to have the guy who roofied you and violated your unconscious body in lv83 quest to be a party member, because that makes sense.
    "Oh but redemption" no. It was bad enough we didnt get to kill the chick who poisoned us in hw, we dont need to let more wastes of life live. We already let Gaius and Fordola walk around happy as can be, Im sick of letting villains live.
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