The feeling of beeing Home ...

[BaconBits]

yeah im not arguing for this game to become a dating sim or animal crossing I was saying "Oh I hate this character and do not want them in my story anymore because they're a sack of crap".
I loved Valens Van Varro because he was the only villain in 14 who doesnt get sad naruto flute music as he explains that he HAS to genocide the au ra because he had an upset tummy during childhood ;_; and then our character looks down and closes their eyes in sadness as he lays dying like every other FEEL BAD FOR MEEEE villain in this game.

Ah, a fellow Valens Van Vámonos enjoyer.

[Moebious]

Am I the only one who has no feelings for the Story of this Game anymore?

Certainly not the only one. After Endwalker's rather rushed and botched story, I really aren't looking forward to anything they(main story writers) may be baking in the oven, honestly.

Endwalker simply felt like such a big disconnect to me, and tainted the well to the prior stories' setup throughout expansions. As such, the New Game+ feature doesn't feel worth it anymore either, and makes me concerned for what or who they might destroy or blemish next. This goes especially for the upcoming Void story, as they seem to be heading towards, possible known characters of past installments, if they botch those too, whatever can they do to course correct the story, if at all, another Time Travel paradox insertion?


FFXIV has luckily other things and content to peer through, and upcoming content like Criterion Dungeon, Island Sanctuary, or even next Deep Dungeon(6.3x hopefully). Kind of wish they had more stuff like Palace of the Dead, continued in some bizarre cosmic horror flavor way, akin to how the floors from 151 and onwards felt mystical, where time had either stopped or gone beyond its own end. I would love them going back to those things, especially by that, leaving things up in the air, which the players can speculate, ponder, and wonder for themselves.

Endwalker sadly didn't do that, it tried to push themes and messages, through morally dubious and questionable characters, which committed acts of genocide(s) on planetary or galactic scale. While our WoL were seemingly just nodding through it all, no proper means/options of confronting or questioning moralities, this time around.

FFXIV isn't only about the story but it does feel like a big part of its allure has been compromised.

[xenahawk]

no no the story is so perfect idk why anyone would hate hearing Alphinaud say to a room of Bozjans, Dalmascans, Domans and Ala Mhigans that "None suffered more than Garlemald" as if Garlemald were not responsible for their own suffering because the second the Emperor dies they start bombing each other.
Or listening to Emet-Selch explain why you were his bestie in a past life, thereby robbing YOUR CHARACTER of agency, and whether or not you find Giga Hitler a likable character or not because you're forced to watch your character look somber over the death of a man who nuked 7 Shards because he cant move on.
No the story is perfect and you hate Ishikawa if you disagree.

Because though "none" suffered more then garlemald is a stretch, truth be told innocent people often pay the price for bad even foolish leadership. But the story did a good job showing that much like you people believe they brought it on themself and leave it be. Now again different people see characters differently because hell people are different so debating on how certain characters ruin the story can always be countered with others saying how it was great because of it. Neither side is wrong though because people will view things differently. Might not like every part of the story but as a whole it was pretty damn good and coherent.

[Jojoya]

I feel like a few people n the thread didn't read all the way through the OP's post.

The OP stated that they would quit the game now if it weren't for the fact that they had already paid for subscription and retainers that will last another 80 days. Someone replies that they may as well quit now if there's nothing else they're interested in now that the story plot points the OP was interested in have been resolved (whether anyone thinks those resolutions were done well or done poorly).

Then others come in and say "how dare you tell the OP to do what the OP wants to do! They will learn to like what's left in the game if they just keep playing". Seriously, the fanatical tribalism is out of hand.

There's an old saying that I think may have a lot of truth in the OP's situation. "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." The OP probably would be better off taking a break from the game for a bit rather than stay where they're now unhappy just because of Sunk Cost Fallacy. Maybe after a couple of months they'll decide there were other parts of the game they enjoyed enough that it's worth it to keep playing. Or maybe they'll decide that the story really was all they had been interested in and that there is no reason to come back. Either way, they're not on a one way street. They can go then come back later if they are interested.

The OP gets to decide whether or not they enjoy the game. We don't get to make that decision for them. It's okay for them to no longer enjoy the game even though they did in the past. It's okay to tell them it's okay to quit the game and play other games. And it will be okay if they decide to come back after.

[BRVV]

I feel like a few people n the thread didn't read all the way through the OP's post.

I admit that after scrolling past pages of coffee talk i kinda forgot that OP in the last paragraph which talks about the future of the story at first, they mention the 80 days subscription.

Someone replies that they may as well quit now if there's nothing else they're interested in now that the story plot points the OP was interested in have been resolved (whether anyone thinks those resolutions were done well or done poorly).

Calling it now: Everything will come back. Nothing is resolved. Finished the story of the Ascians? Why are the raids about them then? Dynamis and that will probably come back too.

Then others come in and say "how dare you tell the OP to do what the OP wants to do! They will learn to like what's left in the game if they just keep playing". Seriously, the fanatical tribalism is out of hand.

"Don't like the story of this MMORPG? QUIT!" ~ typical poster ignoring Dungeons, Raids, Gold Saucer, Deep Dungeon, ...

There's an old saying that I think may have a lot of truth in the OP's situation. "Absence makes the heart grow fonder." The OP probably would be better off taking a break from the game for a bit rather than stay where they're now unhappy just because of Sunk Cost Fallacy. Maybe after a couple of months they'll decide there were other parts of the game they enjoyed enough that it's worth it to keep playing.

They can't do that now? Do you need months to get over EW's bad storytelling? ... Actually fair point.

*snip* (basically the rest)

So your advice basically "figure it out on your own". That's why most people don't ask anything on the forums i guess.

[Striker44]

"Don't like the story of this MMORPG? QUIT!" ~ typical poster ignoring Dungeons, Raids, Gold Saucer, Deep Dungeon, ...

I feel like this in particular proved the very point of the person you were responding to. The OP in this thread didn't mention even one single thing about the game they're currently enjoying. They effectively said, "There's nothing for me here. I want to leave. The only reason I haven't is because I've invested so much time in this game that I feel I shouldn't go." Other posters aren't ignoring things, because the OP already seems to have covered them. The only real thing at issue is either getting past or succumbing to that very real aspect of human nature that doesn't want to let something go because of long-time attachment.

[BRVV]

Was talking more in general. A lot of this thread isn't about OP's first post anymore so i don't understand the sudden insistancy on it. Coffee talk for example. The story itself.

They effectively said, "There's nothing for me here. I want to leave. The only reason I haven't is because I've invested so much time in this game that I feel I shouldn't go."

I guess i should just respond to everything with "Do what you want". OP probably knows the sunk cost fallacy, yet they asked here for our opinions. If they don't enjoy anything in the game than they should quit their sub. If the reason was to ask about the 80 days of time bought... should we direct the OP to the responsible SE department for refunds? I mean: What is the reason for this topic then?

Does this topic boil done to:
"I don't like the game. Should i stay subbed?" - No

To OP: Do you enjoy something else in the game? Is it enough to keep you? If not, unsub. You might want to see if updates, let alone 7.0 may interest you. If there is something else like raiding, events with your FC or static: is it enough?

[TheMightyMollusk]

Calling it now: Everything will come back. Nothing is resolved. Finished the story of the Ascians? Why are the raids about them then? Dynamis and that will probably come back too.

The raids that are explicitly set in the past, meaning nothing has to "come back" for it.

Honestly feels like an attempt at a saving throw because they realized Lahabrea was a flat, one-note villain stereotype while the other two Unsundered were fleshed out more. I'm willing to wait and see if I'm proven wrong about it, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

Honestly feels like an attempt at a saving throw because they realized Lahabrea was a flat, one-note villain stereotype while the other two Unsundered were fleshed out more. I'm willing to wait and see if I'm proven wrong about it, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Well, to Lahabrea, the "ultimate magic" was a big explosion, which is weird considering creation magic. Obviously he's just a victim of retcons and how the story is written ham-fistedly with things tacked on with random stuff after the fact. Of course it can't get better like that.

[XiRon]

Because though "none" suffered more then garlemald is a stretch, truth be told innocent people often pay the price for bad even foolish leadership. But the story did a good job showing that much like you people believe they brought it on themself and leave it be. Now again different people see characters differently because hell people are different so debating on how certain characters ruin the story can always be countered with others saying how it was great because of it. Neither side is wrong though because people will view things differently. Might not like every part of the story but as a whole it was pretty damn good and coherent.

it was not good or coherent because we have a bunch of middys with marbles on their forehead calling us Savage when their people only exist because they destroy others lives and cultures and we have people willing to die in a frozen pukehole rather than not be racist for 5 minutes and and we have dumbasses trying to guilt trip us for killing their friends!...friends who worked on Ultima Weapon in Prae and were going to use said weapon to destroy natives.
It was pointless and frustrating and the fact that WE, the guy whose had to solve everyones countless problems, never get to say a word in defiance, even when Coksuk van Balzac puts electric death collars on two teenagers because "our ideals differ" (Garlean ideals having been told plainly to us by Varis to make a One Race supremacy!) it is endlessly frustrating and bad.
"Oh but in real life-" if I wanted to argue politics I wouldnt be using my time off at 3 in the morning to play a taiwanese dress up simulator, I am the Moral Paragon of this crapfest and I get to say not one whit about anything to any characters, and it is bad and loathsome.