I hope 7.0's has a way to skip most of the current story

[Midareyukki]

Like I mean eureka shows that horizontal progression can work just fine if they ever care to properly implement it, Cassie earring is still the single most valuable item on the market board despite eureka being what 4 years old at this point

They implemented it on Eureka because, and I paraphrase, they wanted people to experience that good Old RPG gameplay vibe. For better or for worse. But the thing is that it came in a vaccum. With how large the game is and how much would have to be changed and then re-balanced to accomodate it, I doubt they'd focus on changing their design to something like that. Doable, sure, given enough time, effort, money, interest, all that... but it's not really realistic to do.

I don't think there's ever been another MMO that's changed how their progression system was designed this late into the game's lifespan? Not to say "Oh others can't do it, so we won't either", that isn't really an excuse for me (let's face it, ARR was unprecedented the way it worked out, and so much else can be as well). It's just more so that it's probably unheard of for a reason.

[Supersnow845]

They implemented it on Eureka because, and I paraphrase, they wanted people to experience that good Old RPG gameplay vibe. For better or for worse. But the thing is that it came in a vaccum. With how large the game is and how much would have to be changed and then re-balanced to accomodate it, I doubt they'd focus on changing their design to something like that. Doable, sure, given enough time, effort, money, interest, all that... but it's not really realistic to do.

I don't think there's ever been another MMO that's changed how their progression system was designed this late into the game's lifespan? Not to say "Oh others can't do it, so we won't either", that isn't really an excuse for me (let's face it, ARR was unprecedented the way it worked out, and so much else can be as well). It's just more so that it's probably unheard of for a reason.

That’s fair enough but they could always add it going forward and just sync it out in older encounters, like “horizontal progression only applies in duties above level 90”, I think we are all getting tired of the gear treadmill

Like at this point I can tell you the ilvl of the gear dropped by the 12th floor boss in the 18th expansion

[Midareyukki]

That’s fair enough but they could always add it going forward and just sync it out in older encounters, like “horizontal progression only applies in duties above level 90”, I think we are all getting tired of the gear treadmill

Like at this point I can tell you the ilvl of the gear dropped by the 12th floor boss in the 18th expansion

We all can ^^; that's the problem with this system. It's easy to implement and maintain, it's just going to be bland, boring and predictable.

They could maybe add it going forward though yeah. Like, vertical up until 7.0, where it caps at 90 and it becomes horizontal. And we do have level synch anyway, it'd just need to be expanded upon. Question is if they're willing. Because even if the team decides "Eh sure", maybe Square won't pay them for the extra thought time needed to design and implement it.

yeah, well. That's their problem.

It is. And that's kind of the purpose of this thread. Because it's their problem, and it will affect how we current players experience the game and how future new players will start their experience.

[hagare]

It is. And that's kind of the purpose of this thread. Because it's their problem, and it will affect how we current players experience the game and how future new players will start their experience.

current players won't be affected because it would affect the entry point of new players.
So asking people who is current and have forgotten how long it took them to reach that point is not advisable.

[Midareyukki]

current players won't be affected because it would affect the entry point of new players.
So asking people who is current and have forgotten how long it took them to reach that point is not advisable.

I meant more in the execution. We who played the game will feel the impact of a transition if it's not done organically or at least somewhat linear.
What I meant was:
"Newer players will be confused because they're told the state of the world is as you'd expect 5 years after a massive dragon hatched out of its moon egg and had a temper tantrum, and then are given something else entirely if they decide to skip.
Older players will find it weird to go from a world that grew by building upon itself to a story that tries to ignore what happened a little so it can create a new plot."

[hagare]

Older players will find it weird to go from a world that grew by building upon itself to a story that tries to ignore what happened a little so it can create a new plot."

what makes you think they will go that route?
if they were going that route, they probably wouldn't be adding glossary and expanding journey.