Just Another Samurai Thread About "That"

[CelestiCer]

Why is Tenka Goken a radial AoE now? Seems every cone AoE is/has been turning into a circle, why the cone hate? Genuinely who was asking to make their conal AoE into a circle, ever? I keep positioning to hit with the cone and I get this tiny, nonsense cone attack with an obviously frontal move animation. It blows. I know it may seem asinine but details matter. Let classes play and position different through AoEs and so on.

" The 6.1 change from Cone to non-Target Circular feels terrible ".

Who suffered the most with the old Tenka Goken?
No one. Seriously, name any content that Samurai couldn't finish with a the old Tenka Goken? No one was held back.

Did it actually improve Gameplay?
No. It simplified it, while properly executing it being less rewarding in both damage and in how many targets you can hit, while also being not as fun nor good to aim with " factually speaking " since this has been debunked with measurements on another thread.

Coupled with Kaiten removal?
I mean why make it dumber when you can " Go beyond! Plus Ultra-Dumber "

What about Auto-Crit Tenka Goken?
What about it? They added it to Iaijutsu's and Ogi-Namikiri, they nerfed Tenka Goken potency and forgot to even add it to Tenka Goken. Nerfed.

Lv52 to Lv62 content has what for Kenki Spending? Well...
As you do low level content to do Tenka Goken AoE rotation? your Kenki spending between those 2 level points is now " Shinten " because you cannot amplify Tenka Goken with Kaiten nor can you execute Kyuten since it's AoE that you won't have yet and Shinten is single target, ruining even this part of the game...


TLDR

• No one asked, nor suffered any amount to have it change to circle
• No one was held back before to clear any content from it being a cone
• No one is clearing any content that much easier with the changes
• No gameplay improvement plus our AoE is nerfed
• It didn't fix any problem that a was already non-existing

Lastly, take this opinion as someone who used to play non-stop Korean/Asian grind-style MMO games for years... SAM AoE was fun and there for even relaxing, almost borderline therapeutic, doing fates for 8 hours joining random parties this was fun. 6.1 changes? has ruined AoE satisfaction so badly for SAM that I have not touched a Dungeon anymore until I choose to just never use the skill. I have not done a single fate since 6.1 changes. It has made me quit AoE-ing... they managed to make it " that unfun " from what in my opinion used to be " perfect ".

[Tetsujin]

Facts.

Keep doing god's work. I'm leveling a DRG and/or MNK to get off SAM ASAP, it feels disastrous after I've come back and had to experience it in 6.1. Praying they say anything about it in the upcoming liveletter, even better just revert it. Even if it became F tier, I'd take it. If I had it my way, I'd almost just copy paste SB Samurai's kit into our level 90 but that's admittedly little extreme and silly.

Just please, get us off this mediocre, unsightly ride. We had a really fun class with a LOT of punch at one point. Now all the impact, flow, and most importantly FUN is gone.

Fun> Balance>>>>>>> "ease of access", which is almost always an excuse to dumb things down considerably. See fighting games.

[Quor]

Tenka Goken changes

It gets lost amidst all the Kaiten talk, but yes, the Tenka Goken change was absolutely terrible. In addition to the outright nerfing it received it is just not fun anymore. It flowed so smoothly, felt so good to pull off, but now it's the most boring thing in the world and literally nobody asked for it. Keep up the good fight Cel.