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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    No. Outfits and stuff is one thing, and if I had it my way the entire mogstation wouldnt exist. But animations is a step too far for me.
    Frankly I'm sure that even if they did worse than that the community would still be there
    Just be realistic, gamers nowadays are not respected and it's normal since we accept to pay no matter how we are treated

    I've often seen people, the community complains and may even threaten but in the end they pay and that's the most important thing for them

    I will never forget for example the moment when the developer of battlefield 5 told the players that if they were not happy they could not buy the game and that they had no value in his eyes, the players got angry but in the end they paid

    Same thing for fallout 76 they got a defective product and got ripped off but in the end they pay and even defend the game if anyone dares to criticize

    In short they will do as they want and you will pay your subscription no matter what
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    Quote Originally Posted by HanWenqing View Post
    Frankly I'm sure that even if they did worse than that the community would still be there
    Just be realistic, gamers nowadays are not respected and it's normal since we accept to pay no matter how we are treated

    I've often seen people, the community complains and may even threaten but in the end they pay and that's the most important thing for them

    I will never forget for example the moment when the developer of battlefield 5 told the players that if they were not happy they could not buy the game and that they had no value in his eyes, the players got angry but in the end they paid

    Same thing for fallout 76 they got a defective product and got ripped off but in the end they pay and even defend the game if anyone dares to criticize

    In short they will do as they want and you will pay your subscription no matter what
    And yet you're here, paying your subscription no matter what, too.

    To OP, nah. They could add more of those to Gold Saucer though, like the Sheathe/Draw emotes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    And yet you're here, paying your subscription no matter what, too.

    To OP, nah. They could add more of those to Gold Saucer though, like the Sheathe/Draw emotes.
    Sheathe and draw are indeed a nice addition ! But i wish they merged it into one single emote or outright replace the default draw/sheathe weapon animation once you learned them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    And yet you're here, paying your subscription no matter what, too.

    To OP, nah. They could add more of those to Gold Saucer though, like the Sheathe/Draw emotes.
    I pay even if SE does horrible things because I have precious memories of my friends in my ingame home and I don't want to lose that
    There is also a lot of fun stuff in the game for now
    In short I don't care if they add paid animations anyway by the time they sold levels and mounts it was already too late to complain if they add more stuff

    So there you have it, I never said I was special, you're the only one who thought so, probably to try to discredit me, it's pretty pathetic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    And yet you're here, paying your subscription no matter what, too.

    To OP, nah. They could add more of those to Gold Saucer though, like the Sheathe/Draw emotes.
    I agree. Adding things to Gold Saucer is cool. hang around long enough or grind out MGP long enough and you can afford anything there.

    Adding even more cash shop customization is unfair. Frankly, I wasn't comfortable with them adding emotes at all, aside from the ones that came from previous events.

    And I still bought Drink Tea anyway, grumbling the entire time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    I agree. Adding things to Gold Saucer is cool. hang around long enough or grind out MGP long enough and you can afford anything there.

    Adding even more cash shop customization is unfair. Frankly, I wasn't comfortable with them adding emotes at all, aside from the ones that came from previous events.

    And I still bought Drink Tea anyway, grumbling the entire time.
    While I do spend a lot of time anymore there AFK, or doing the occasional gold saucer attraction, if they are going to add things to it, they need to actually make your stay there more enjoyable.

    I'd like to see more things added as rewards across content in general. Such as for achievements, healers could each use their own mount set like tanks, etc. Customization options such as animations, I would rather see added in a free update to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HanWenqing View Post
    Frankly I'm sure that even if they did worse than that the community would still be there
    Just be realistic, gamers nowadays are not respected and it's normal since we accept to pay no matter how we are treated

    I've often seen people, the community complains and may even threaten but in the end they pay and that's the most important thing for them

    I will never forget for example the moment when the developer of battlefield 5 told the players that if they were not happy they could not buy the game and that they had no value in his eyes, the players got angry but in the end they paid

    Same thing for fallout 76 they got a defective product and got ripped off but in the end they pay and even defend the game if anyone dares to criticize

    In short they will do as they want and you will pay your subscription no matter what
    Battlefield V was a huge failure for DICE they had to discount so hard to get people interested in it. the only reason I own it is because it came bundled with the other Battlefield games for like £7. What's obviously not a good return on investment for DICE.

    Haven't even touched it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    Battlefield V was a huge failure for DICE they had to discount so hard to get people interested in it. the only reason I own it is because it came bundled with the other Battlefield games for like £7. What's obviously not a good return on investment for DICE.

    Haven't even touched it.
    They made a profit, that's a fact, but yes, according to their estimates, it was a failure.

    The game sold 7.3 million copies by the end of 2018, but was a commercial disappointment for Electronic Arts.
    Personally I find that in a normal world they should not have any customer for this BF5 at least if the gamers had some pride

    We can even see that video game companies are employing more and more psychologists and mind readers to study the behavior of gamers and know how far they can go to take their money
    It's not me who says it, it's professionals who have talked about it

    Just look at Diablo Immortal and its system that strongly encourages consumption as if we were some cattle
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    Quote Originally Posted by HanWenqing View Post
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    so wikipedia says a bit more "In November, it was reported that Battlefield V sold fewer than half the physical copies that Battlefield 1 did upon its launch during the same period of time.[43] The game sold 7.3 million copies by the end of 2018. On February 5, 2019, EA's CEO Andrew Wilson announced that the game ultimately failed to meet sales expectations, blaming the game's marketing as well as their focus on developing a single-player campaign instead of a battle royale mode, a genre which had gained recent widespread popularity. Wilson also highlighted Battlefield V's long development cycle, and release in a month of strong competition. EA's stock prices also faced its worst drop in more than a decade during its third quarter of the fiscal year, declining by around 18 percent, which EA attributed in part to the poor sales of the game"

    I just checked their stock price at it hasn't still fully recovered from when BFV was released even with the boom to the video game industry that was COVID. so I think in real term it did more harm than good to EA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    so wikipedia says a bit more "In November, it was reported that Battlefield V sold fewer than half the physical copies that Battlefield 1 did upon its launch during the same period of time.[43] The game sold 7.3 million copies by the end of 2018. On February 5, 2019, EA's CEO Andrew Wilson announced that the game ultimately failed to meet sales expectations, blaming the game's marketing as well as their focus on developing a single-player campaign instead of a battle royale mode, a genre which had gained recent widespread popularity. Wilson also highlighted Battlefield V's long development cycle, and release in a month of strong competition. EA's stock prices also faced its worst drop in more than a decade during its third quarter of the fiscal year, declining by around 18 percent, which EA attributed in part to the poor sales of the game"

    I just checked their stock price at it hasn't still fully recovered from when BFV was released even with the boom to the video game industry that was COVID. so I think in real term it did more harm than good to EA
    Between the development and the winnings the game has made profits

    So yes, in the eyes of the shareholder pigs and the big fish, it's a failure, but personally, I don't care, I base it on the cost of the development and the profits

    Battlefield 5 Took Roughly $3 Million To Make
    You have to understand that a success for them is a game that brings a lot of money to pigs who have never worked on the development of the game

    It's the same everywhere, a game doesn't cost that much to develop and it's those who work the most who get the crumbs
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