New ways to monetize the game through customization.

[HanWenqing]

Battlefield V was a huge failure for DICE they had to discount so hard to get people interested in it. the only reason I own it is because it came bundled with the other Battlefield games for like £7. What's obviously not a good return on investment for DICE.

Haven't even touched it.

They made a profit, that's a fact, but yes, according to their estimates, it was a failure.

The game sold 7.3 million copies by the end of 2018, but was a commercial disappointment for Electronic Arts.

Personally I find that in a normal world they should not have any customer for this BF5 at least if the gamers had some pride

We can even see that video game companies are employing more and more psychologists and mind readers to study the behavior of gamers and know how far they can go to take their money
It's not me who says it, it's professionals who have talked about it

Just look at Diablo Immortal and its system that strongly encourages consumption as if we were some cattle

[Mosha]

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so wikipedia says a bit more "In November, it was reported that Battlefield V sold fewer than half the physical copies that Battlefield 1 did upon its launch during the same period of time.[43] The game sold 7.3 million copies by the end of 2018. On February 5, 2019, EA's CEO Andrew Wilson announced that the game ultimately failed to meet sales expectations, blaming the game's marketing as well as their focus on developing a single-player campaign instead of a battle royale mode, a genre which had gained recent widespread popularity. Wilson also highlighted Battlefield V's long development cycle, and release in a month of strong competition. EA's stock prices also faced its worst drop in more than a decade during its third quarter of the fiscal year, declining by around 18 percent, which EA attributed in part to the poor sales of the game"

I just checked their stock price at it hasn't still fully recovered from when BFV was released even with the boom to the video game industry that was COVID. so I think in real term it did more harm than good to EA

[HanWenqing]

so wikipedia says a bit more "In November, it was reported that Battlefield V sold fewer than half the physical copies that Battlefield 1 did upon its launch during the same period of time.[43] The game sold 7.3 million copies by the end of 2018. On February 5, 2019, EA's CEO Andrew Wilson announced that the game ultimately failed to meet sales expectations, blaming the game's marketing as well as their focus on developing a single-player campaign instead of a battle royale mode, a genre which had gained recent widespread popularity. Wilson also highlighted Battlefield V's long development cycle, and release in a month of strong competition. EA's stock prices also faced its worst drop in more than a decade during its third quarter of the fiscal year, declining by around 18 percent, which EA attributed in part to the poor sales of the game"

I just checked their stock price at it hasn't still fully recovered from when BFV was released even with the boom to the video game industry that was COVID. so I think in real term it did more harm than good to EA

Between the development and the winnings the game has made profits

So yes, in the eyes of the shareholder pigs and the big fish, it's a failure, but personally, I don't care, I base it on the cost of the development and the profits

Battlefield 5 Took Roughly $3 Million To Make

You have to understand that a success for them is a game that brings a lot of money to pigs who have never worked on the development of the game

It's the same everywhere, a game doesn't cost that much to develop and it's those who work the most who get the crumbs

[Mosha]

Between the development and the winnings the game has made profits

What about the costs of Marketing, distribution and printing, paying royalties to online storefronts and anti-cheats?
there is more to the cost of a game than just developing the said product.

[HanWenqing]

What about the costs of Marketing, distribution and printing, paying royalties to online storefronts and anti-cheats?
there is more to the cost of a game than just developing the said product.

With the cost of buying a game in this day and age, I can assure you that they are making golden balls

Also lots of people buy it in digital version

The game is selling even now, so they are still making money

[NekoMataMata]

Wouldn't be interested and I don't think it'd be good.

It would affect job identity I feel.

[Fhaerron]

I would not be ok with it. I understand that it's 2022 but the game feels too much as a F2P already.

[aveyond-dreams]

Would you be ok if they added new animations set and sound for different job in the mog station ? :3

Absolutely not. As customers it is our responsibility to make sure that this game’s monetization doesn’t get any more out of control than it already is when compared to how little content there is to do until half-way through the expansion. This is a business relationship at the end of the day, and more players need to realize that.

[Lustre]

They made a profit, that's a fact, but yes, according to their estimates, it was a failure.



Personally I find that in a normal world they should not have any customer for this BF5 at least if the gamers had some pride

We can even see that video game companies are employing more and more psychologists and mind readers to study the behavior of gamers and know how far they can go to take their money
It's not me who says it, it's professionals who have talked about it

Just look at Diablo Immortal and its system that strongly encourages consumption as if we were some cattle

This is why I'm so fervently against any kind of MTX, P2W, P2E etc. Its a slippery slope, and the wigwigs of gaming companies arent on our side. When they have psychologists on payroll to figure out how to extort even more money from me, I'm sorry. That's a step too far. And while I am thankful Yoshi P seems to have tried to keep the online store at arms length, we can already see the start of the scummy behaviours here. Things we could've got in game are in the cash shop. Things they know people want like the cruise chaser, or modern outfits, or idk, giant shiba dogs. It's all about boiling the frogs. You heat them up slowly so that they dont notice they're being boiled. It wouldnt surprise me if the addition of the Materiel Coffers (minion lootboxes) is part of this haha.

This all started with optional cosmetics. Now we have people in the gaming community being sold half a game, acting as PR for the devs so they dont feel like they're wasting their time playing it. It's so, so sad. I remember when games were made by gamers, now they're made by soulless businessmen, being directed by shareholders. I believe if a player of a game cares at all about the longevity of said game, they have a responsibility to oppose these kinds of predatory methods. The players that buy into it will find themselves in a p2w hell a few years down the line and then look around and wonder "how did we get here?". You got here because despite the outrage, it was financially profitable for the company to extort you. Now the game's dead and the company's cashed out.

Do I think this will happen in ff14? I'm not sure. But i know for a fact, as long as I'm around I will never ever stop complaining about it and sounding the alarm. So many of my favourite franchises have been ruined by greed, and I'd detest for this to go the same way. Sorry about the word dump, I'm passionate on this topic.

[ZedxKayn]

The game needs less monetization, not more