Who is excited for harder 4 man content?

[BaconBits]

There will always be tryhards who "lord the fact they do HARD content" over others. One reason we do NOT need the equivalent of m plus in FF 14.

There will also always be uber casuals that seethe at the mere existence of harder content and complain that it's taking up resources that could be going to something they want, despite the fact that the vast majority of the game already caters to them. One reason why we should just have NO content at all so everyone can feel equal

[george357]

will try it out and see how it runs.

[LianaThorne]

wait really?

Mhm, some of the original ARR dungeons used to be a lot harder (norm Pharos Sirius came out in 2.1) but people complained about it so they made them easier. If you run it you'll probably notice it still feels/plays a bit different compared to your typical dungeon we get nowadays.

[Izar_Chillen]

There will always be tryhards who "lord the fact they do HARD content" over others. One reason we do NOT need the equivalent of m plus in FF 14.

There will always be pretentious, self righteous karens that lord it over everybody just because they had a bad experience and think its perfectly ok to label the entire community that desire challenging content as one and the same . One of the many reason this game should not cater to those people as it destroys the community because the villain once it gets what it wants will throw it away when they lose interest which is almost always as what they desire is for people to grovel at them and always apologise for something they had no part in.



At OP, I too am looking forward to challenging dungeons . I just hope they arent just hallways with gates of mobs that only have harder hitting autos and actually have bosses with mechanics more than dodge the orange bad

[Axxion]

Mhm, some of the original ARR dungeons used to be a lot harder (norm Pharos Sirius came out in 2.1) but people complained about it so they made them easier. If you run it you'll probably notice it still feels/plays a bit different compared to your typical dungeon we get nowadays.

When it first launched, it wasnt hard. Some of the normal fights and trials (imo) where not hard. Thats why im confused about.

[SweetestLily]

There will always be tryhards who "lord the fact they do HARD content" over others. One reason we do NOT need the equivalent of m plus in FF 14.

Good thing that said content is accessible to EVERYONE. If you don't like the fact that someone else can do it and you can't, then get better, and if you don't want to improve and learn to do it then let them have their hard content in peace while you remain casual. Ridiculous reason to gatekeep harder content being added because some people are jealous of the ones who do it.

[Liam_Harper]

Not hyped one bit.

Job balance in dungeons is actually an absolute mess, we just never cared because dungeons are a joke. But now that will be relevant. There's no reason not to go WAR, Melee of choice, BLM or SMN and a SGE. I expect the rewards to not be worth the time because they won't want to "force us" to run them. They'll probably be easier than expected too (remember Yoshida thought EX3 was going to be extremely challenging). Then there's a chance SE will throw some gimmick mechanics in because they love gimmicks.

I'd be very happy to be proven wrong. I'm just not getting my hopes up.

[Reinha]

I hope they will have no barriers so we can finally pull as much as players can handle. And hopefully a timer. I enjoyed MoP challenge modes and got the mounts for beating silver times. Mythic+ affixes are a fun idea but I find the key system too punishing.

[Illmaeran]

Was wondering how many people are hyped for harder four man content? Do you think it will last or will become dead content with the next expansion? Do you feel it might foster a sense of elitism, or will it promote a reason for many to strive to improve.

I hope the Criterion Dungeons don't foster a sense of elitism, but any sort of competitive activity will do that so I'm not going to hold my breath. I'm really looking forward to the Variant (?) Dungeon; it seems like something my friends and I can go through at our leisure and explore. The idea of having to go through it multiple times to complete the map is rather appealing. Criterion dungeons appeal to me as being a mid-way between the normal DR content I do and EX, etc. Again, this is content that I'd like to do with friends and not in a PF. I hope they're both successful and we get more of them in the future; the concept is awesome.

[Fhaerron]

I actually re-subbed for this so let's see how it will play out.