Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
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LOL I didn't think of it that way - but yeah you've got a point. I will say (we were in VC at the time), we didn't really see the point in speaking up. No one commented on it, it was a silent run for the most part, and they were in a different alliance. We both definitely would have said something had they been in our party, but alas, they were not. We've both had experiences of piping up with "hey, maybe not do that because X" and people snap back very aggressively. The run was going smoothly regardless of regen spammer since it was CT, so in the end we felt like it was just more trouble than it's worth to even start/provoke a fight. People have a tendency in ARaids to bash on the negative nancy being "toxic" towards someone, ESPECIALLY when the run itself is going fine.

I also, FWIW, totally believe that guy didn't care at all and was just using a bot clicker or something to avoid getting kicked/make it look like he's doing something the entire time. Maybe he had friends/enablers or something, idk at the end of the day.

I try to be as patient as I can be with people learning their roles - I get it because I do understand some people have difficulties or whatever. So I do try to prop up with, "hey, maybe use holy instead of single target because of blahblah". Sometimes they take it well, sometimes they hit with: "who asked?". Had a healer one time say they rejoined the game recently and was reading their tooltips, ok whatever, that's fine. This is was some dungeon like mid-MSQ of ShB. They were.. not healing or dpsing at all, just running in circles the entire time. We barely get through the first boss, can't pass the second. We ALL tried helping him, giving him advice, told him to follow the dps so he could at the very least dodge mechanics. Tell him that he had aoe heals, what they did, how to use it, very politely told him he was the reason why we were wiping. We get: "I didn't ask for advice, if I wanted advice I would ask. I'm doing this for the MSQ." Me too, buddy! It doesn't mean I run in circles as a tank. We ended up having to kick the guy in the end, he was just clearly not going to listen or even attempt to improve. Had no idea wtf his deal was to this day other than being a diva.

So anecdotals aside - I do try to give advice when I can reasonably know what I'm talking about. I say it outright because sometimes people just genuinely don't know how to utilize their kit effectively, and I get that. I want to say I'm never a jerk to people, but I probably just word things more bluntly during a run: "hey can u use arm's length pls, it's a good mitigation because 20% slow for 2min cd" or something close to that. But a lot of people just HATE that they're being called out when their mindset is "I've never had problems until you started nitpicking what I'm doing".


In the end I think people just find it's not worth arguing over because people will scream at you for even trying. In my belief this is why the casual content just needs a bit of beefing; I'm not sure how they would do that but forcing people to actually try or think a little would be a good start.