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    Merrigan Gilgard
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by game_enjoyer View Post
    This would be fine if the bar for tanking wasn't subterranean. Tanking is so easy I can explain how to do it for every tank right now. Put stance on, pop sprint before aggroing the first mob pack (optional), reach the wall, grabbing mobs on the way, and apply arm's length + reprisal. After 10 seconds, apply your 30% mitigation. After 10 seconds, apply your 10% mitigation. After 5 seconds, apply rampart. Use AoE abilities in between. That rotation is good enough to get you through a majority of w2w pulls without engaging with anything else and just relying on your healer to pick up the slack. It's not an issue of "Why aren't they as good as me?!" It's an issue of, "The developers have been intentionally making this role easier and easier for the last 2 expansions, how are we still having these issues?"
    This post is a typical example of "why simplifying a job was never a good idea, and why over-simplification makes you less lax about mistakes".

    That said: you are playing with humans. Not bots. That's why we keep having these problems, and there's nothing else to understand. Agree to be a little flexible. Being a good player isn't just, as you just pointed out, knowing how to organise your mitigations. That part is simple. What is less simple is adapting to players you have just met. The tank is more of an optimizer than a common punching bag (which is why I actually find your description very poor).

    On a personal note, the ones that piss me off the most are the people who are so buried in their "wall-to-wall" mentality that they end up causing wipes. In fact, some are so convinced of this religion that they don't even ask the question "why is the tank slowing down here". Small reference to a group I met yesterday, on my alt, where a dps thought it was a good idea to pull more when I had no CDs left. The same dps, of course, who was doing mold damage and forcing me to slam more on each pack, because the mobs weren't melting fast enough.

    I'm seeing more and more of that these days - and they're rarely the best players. Which doesn't surprise me at all. They're also the most common, because in reality players who pull a pack by a pack are rare in the higher levels, despite all the complaining about it.
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    Kevin Pizza
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    Miner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    This post is a typical example of "why simplifying a job was never a good idea, and why over-simplification makes you less lax about mistakes".

    That said: you are playing with humans. Not bots. That's why we keep having these problems, and there's nothing else to understand. Agree to be a little flexible. Being a good player isn't just, as you just pointed out, knowing how to organise your mitigations. That part is simple. What is less simple is adapting to players you have just met. The tank is more of an optimizer than a common punching bag (which is why I actually find your description very poor).

    On a personal note, the ones that piss me off the most are the people who are so buried in their "wall-to-wall" mentality that they end up causing wipes. In fact, some are so convinced of this religion that they don't even ask the question "why is the tank slowing down here". Small reference to a group I met yesterday, on my alt, where a dps thought it was a good idea to pull more when I had no CDs left. The same dps, of course, who was doing mold damage and forcing me to slam more on each pack, because the mobs weren't melting fast enough.

    I'm seeing more and more of that these days - and they're rarely the best players. Which doesn't surprise me at all. They're also the most common, because in reality players who pull a pack by a pack are rare in the higher levels, despite all the complaining about it.
    if u can't pull w2w post 50 that's just u being bad and nothing to do with anyone else
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