Ardbert's Party vs the Scions Analysis

[aveyond-dreams]

In terms of parties who are part of or make up an organization of some kind, I cannot help but recall my experience many years ago when I played Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. Despite having 13-14 members, Organization XIII at the time was able to provide much in the way of visual variety and distinct personalities. Love or hate those characters, they each brought something unique to the table for their respective fans to enjoy. The same kind of diversity just doesn't exist with the scions.

These were characters with flaws that were often put on display over the course of the Kingdom Hearts games, and although being a game intended for younger audiences the stakes in these games for these characters felt more pronounced than those over the course of FFXIV's season 1. Kingdom Hearts however does have a tendency to let characters off the hook eventually, but the payoff felt a lot more earned than when compared to the numerous times the scions have been saved from the consequences of their own actions.

[Atelier-Bagur]

In terms of parties who are part of or make up an organization of some kind, I cannot help but recall my experience many years ago when I played Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. Despite having 13-14 members, Organization XIII at the time was able to provide much in the way of visual variety and distinct personalities. Love or hate those characters, they each brought something unique to the table for their respective fans to enjoy. The same kind of diversity just doesn't exist with the scions.

These were characters with flaws that were often put on display over the course of the Kingdom Hearts games, and although being a game intended for younger audiences the stakes in these games for these characters felt more pronounced than those over the course of FFXIV's season 1. Kingdom Hearts however does have a tendency to let characters off the hook eventually, but the payoff felt a lot more earned than when compared to the numerous times the scions have been saved from the consequences of their own actions.

are we seriously trying to sell KH's rogue's gallery of buffonery that is Organization XIII now?

The only "depth" any of those members (sans Roxas, Saix and Axel I suppose) where how fun and cool their respective boss fights were perfectly showcasing their personalities and quirks in a gameplay aspect and thats it. One of my faves out of this group was Marluxia but let me tell you, its wasnt because he was a compelling or interesting character in the slightest. It was because I like his theme of being a grim reaper represented by japanese cherry blossoms which is extremely cool as a design choice. And this made him memorable due to his fun boss fight in KH2FM. But thats all I cared for that character since his actual role in the plot and personality was just standard stuff.

I've played the KH games and I can still tell you that 80% of Organization XIII are just ....whatever in terms of character development. I think people like them due to their interesting character designs and potential each could've had rather than what was given in the games.

[CrownySuccubus]

In terms of parties who are part of or make up an organization of some kind, I cannot help but recall my experience many years ago when I played Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days. Despite having 13-14 members, Organization XIII at the time was able to provide much in the way of visual variety and distinct personalities. Love or hate those characters, they each brought something unique to the table for their respective fans to enjoy. The same kind of diversity just doesn't exist with the scions.

Yeah, no thanks to that. I mentioned in the other thread how some games (noteably, FFIX) uses shallowness or one-note jokes/gimmicks to give characters the illusion of "diversity" when they're all just flat characters. Another example of that is Organization XIII from KH, and I can also provide another example with the majority of Chrono Cross's cast. Having a lot of characters doesn't mean a lot when half or more of them are defined by a single character trait or recurring joke. It's another reason why, like I said before, "variety" isn't particularly relevant to how good or bad a group may be.