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    Hm. A post made after a run that went wrong?

    Yup, I'll bet on it. Because toxicity can be present in HL... But people yelling at newbies in dungeons ultra frequently ? It seems a bit grotesque.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    Hm. A post made after a run that went wrong?

    Yup, I'll bet on it. Because toxicity can be present in HL... But people yelling at newbies in dungeons ultra frequently ? It seems a bit grotesque.
    It's so strange, because I was having a discussion on another forum about how the endgame scene of FFXIV can be extremely toxic and off-putting to people. Dungeons, though? I haven't seen anything more the some passive aggression in Aurum Vale. They're generally way too easy to cause someone to tantrum at a poor sprout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    It's so strange, because I was having a discussion on another forum about how the endgame scene of FFXIV can be extremely toxic and off-putting to people. Dungeons, though? I haven't seen anything more the some passive aggression in Aurum Vale. They're generally way too easy to cause someone to tantrum at a poor sprout.
    Confirmation bias, or what have you, but there are several primary reasons I deliberately play casually for all MMOs (I don't think this is exclusive to FFXIV).. and personally I find unless you're with a close knit group of friends that the 'late' game content just produces stress and 'work' for something that I should be relaxing to (imo). Having done 'hard' content I've no doubt if I had the group and time I could do it, but if someone was like "do you want to?" the answer is a hard no thanks.

    I've seen lazy behavior in all content, like leeching in alliance content or pvp to failing horribly to learn / attend to mechanics that wipe the group, but in terms of anger and large amounts of stress- particularly from others? Almost exclusively that 'hard' content.

    Hard content is fun, but I don't think you can get me to want to do it in an MMO unless it was part of my job duty... like for bug / quality testing with coworkers or if I was streaming or something. Otherwise I'll take my 'hard' in single player content or things that have Elden Ring like structure.

    Not that I'm saying purge all the hard stuff, I think it's good for those people who need that (though I also appreciate SE, later when it's no longer 'current', making it accessible to me too lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    It's so strange, because I was having a discussion on another forum about how the endgame scene of FFXIV can be extremely toxic and off-putting to people. Dungeons, though? I haven't seen anything more the some passive aggression in Aurum Vale. They're generally way too easy to cause someone to tantrum at a poor sprout.
    Oh Trust me, you'll find some unsavory people in dungeons. Its not as frequent as say an ultimate or savage fight, but its there and it exists past Aurum vale. However, to be fair, it typically comes from people who when you're actually trying to be helpful, see it as you being smug and knowing
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