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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubytoe View Post
    1.Look at enemy team list
    2.Notice sam has lb
    3.Hit sam till they use chiten
    4.Don't press any buttons for 5 seconds
    5.Continue hitting sam til dead
    Players act like they never played red light green light.

    In my honest opinion samurai needs a whole rework period.
    I'd hate to say such a thing, but I'd put it at the bottom of the melee tier list. Outside of a gimmicky LB that they usually use once a game, compared to what all other melee bring, sam is underperforming.

    Friendly reminder, the reflect damage on chiten is 2k. Imagine getting hit with 2k.
    Except this is very uninteresting gameplay and they can get a free instant kill if you accidentally clip them with an AOE - which is really frustrating. I do agree though, they probably need a full rework.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    Except this is very uninteresting gameplay and they can get a free instant kill if you accidentally clip them with an AOE - which is really frustrating. I do agree though, they probably need a full rework.
    That is the only questionable part of the LB, accidently dying to the SAM because 80% of your kit does aoe damage. While not hitting the SAM for 5 seconds is entirely reasonable, not being able to do anything for 5 seconds because you're going to unintentionally cleave the SAM is questionable design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    That is the only questionable part of the LB, accidently dying to the SAM because 80% of your kit does aoe damage. While not hitting the SAM for 5 seconds is entirely reasonable, not being able to do anything for 5 seconds because you're going to unintentionally cleave the SAM is questionable design.
    Begs the question. Can SAM run into a MCH turret and then instant kill them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    Begs the question. Can SAM run into a MCH turret and then instant kill them?
    No ground AOE dont proc it only targeted dmg (this includes aoe hit that hit another target)
    Learn this the hard way trying to exploit

    Hope I explained that clearly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatom View Post
    No ground AOE dont proc it only targeted dmg (this includes aoe hit that hit another target)
    Learn this the hard way trying to exploit

    Hope I explained that clearly
    You did, thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    Begs the question. Can SAM run into a MCH turret and then instant kill them?
    Yes. Zantetsuken literally does the target's max HP as damage. It isn't affected by damage down, vuln up, etc. It's like the inverse of White Wind.

    It *is* affected by shields - shields function normally and block damage until they are exhausted - but is otherwise not affected by buffs or debuffs. As long as you have full HP and have at least 1 point of shielding, you will not die to Zantetsuken. But you'll be nearly dead and pretty much any follow-up will finish you off.
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