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  1. #51
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    Marcelloix Ostoiraint
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    erp

    boy this got boring really fast guess 8 padges was the burnout point.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    What I propose? Nothing but following the ToS. ERP is already against the rules.

    "You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly."

    Everyone here trying to justify ERP is basically saying it's ok to break the rules that already exist. Saying it's ok to ERP with 13 years old kids.
    I'm only asking for a simpler way to report public ERP and stricter punishments.

    https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...1&tag=users_en
    I've never understood ToS documents that include this clause when the game itself has profanity (a lot of it voice acted) baked into the game itself and other pretty heavy and elicit subject matter being discussed or mentioned. What defines a reasonable person and what defines offensive? In the context of public discourse that could be just about anything depending on your walk in life.

    In this case, no one can see what they're doing or saying (again, public ERP is another matter entirely.) The last thing we need are some Home-Owners Association tier loons going up and banging on their doors and windows to threaten them with harsh reprisals for the words they type.
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  3. #53
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    Setesh45's Avatar
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    Adiel Quirelain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    Your job as a parent is to make sure they don't do anything stupid. Any other response is an excuse.
    Are you god? Can you monitor your children 24/7? Can you see absolutely every interaction your child has with anyone and anywhere? Can you guarantee their still developing brains think everything through?
    Your first two sentences already show how disconnected from the real world you are.

    The parents job and the job of all adults is to try to limit the amount of risks the children are exposed to and prepare them for the risks they may get exposed to. The age rattings are a result of this job, that's why when something is rated for teens it should be ok for teens and it cannot support ERP which is not meant for teens.
    Public ERP is already against the rules, like it or not. I just want an easier way to report it and stricter punishments.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    Again watch your damn kids. Guess what? Kids can't play this game unless their parents pay their subs past a certain point. If you don't want your kids under the age of thirteen [which kids under 13 aren't legally supposed to be in this game in the first place without strict parental supervision, accounts have gotten banned because they belonged to kids under 13] exposed to things in this game, don't allow them to have unsupervised internet access or purchase the game. Simple as.
    Just read the rules dude, ERP is already against the ToS. Smarter people than you and me decided that pretty much on a global level, you can present your argument to them.
    All I want is an easier way to report public ERP.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    What I propose? Nothing but following the ToS. ERP is already against the rules.

    "You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly."

    Everyone here trying to justify ERP is basically saying it's ok to break the rules that already exist. Saying it's ok to ERP with 13 years old kids.
    I'm only asking for a simpler way to report public ERP and stricter punishments.

    https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...1&tag=users_en
    Okay, just... no.

    Keeping a certain politeness between players, reminding them that they are not just talking to bots but to people they owe some respect: yes. It helps to minimize the toxic behavior that too many people allow themselves under the guise of anonymity.

    Calibrating everything so that it is accessible and politically correct is another problem. That's how you get tasteless games. Especially since some parts of the game are much less "politically correct" than ERP.

    Endwalker's story can be deeply depressing at times.
    Direct references to rape are made frequently.
    Miqo'te are often referred to as prostitutes; only the word is never uttered, but it is crystal clear.

    From this, it is clear that SE has opted for an environment that is not all rosy, and whose undertones are accessible to an adult audience. I would also point out that the rules you mention do not prohibit ERP at all, as long as it is done by "whisp" / offered in a respectful way / in adapted places (cf: some "brothels" in housing areas)
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED
    LoL u got to it B4 I did.

    FILTHY RATS
    THIS SHALL BE A MERCY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    Just read the rules dude, ERP is already against the ToS. Smarter people than you and me decided that pretty much on a global level, you can present your argument to them.
    All I want is an easier way to report public ERP.
    No, public erp is against the rules, not erp in general. Hell, the one GM that tried to ban people for erp party finders? That guy got disciplined and moved to another team and all bans he handed out were rescinded and the marks removed from the records of the players. Why? Because any 18+ activity was performed behind closed doors.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    Everyone here trying to justify ERP is basically saying it's ok to break the rules that already exist. Saying it's ok to ERP with 13 years old kids.
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    Are you a Spartan? because that's a fucking Reach holy shit
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  9. #59
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    Adiel Quirelain
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    No, public erp is against the rules, not erp in general. Hell, the one GM that tried to ban people for erp party finders? That guy got disciplined and moved to another team and all bans he handed out were rescinded and the marks removed from the records of the players. Why? Because any 18+ activity was performed behind closed doors.
    That's a complete lie.
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    Okay, just... no.

    Keeping a certain politeness between players, reminding them that they are not just talking to bots but to people they owe some respect: yes. It helps to minimize the toxic behavior that too many people allow themselves under the guise of anonymity.

    Calibrating everything so that it is accessible and politically correct is another problem. That's how you get tasteless games. Especially since some parts of the game are much less "politically correct" than ERP.

    Endwalker's story can be deeply depressing at times.
    Direct references to rape are made frequently.
    Miqo'te are often referred to as prostitutes; only the word is never uttered, but it is crystal clear.

    From this, it is clear that SE has opted for an environment that is not all rosy, and whose undertones are accessible to an adult audience. I would also point out that the rules you mention do not prohibit ERP at all, as long as it is done by "whisp" / offered in a respectful way / in adapted places (cf: some "brothels" in housing areas)
    So? Your point is that because the game references rape, it's ok to virtually molest a 13yo? wow
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