So, what now? Lotteries with 150+ bids until... when?

[Sairys]

So you would prefer sitting there clicking for over half a day along side 20-40 other people, many of whom are running bots that are capable of clicking faster than a normal player could? That sounds a thousand times better than entering a lottery and checking back a few days later.

There's another aspect that's being skipped over tbh.

The cycle in the current system makes it trivial to check and see if there are any plots available as you really only need to look once in a given lottery period and then bid if there's anything.
With the old system, people looking for houses had to check pretty regularly because something could go up at any time. I got my house on my old server because I got lucky and no one else noticed it was available in the few hours before I was able to buy it.

One is less time investment so more competition, the other is more time investment so less competition.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I clicked for quite awhile before I got my small. Never were there 20-40 players clicking, but even if there were, you'd still have a higher chance than this. For that matter, you didn't even have to be sitting there all day clicking, that was a choice players made. Plenty of people on the old system did not do that and still won houses. I never regarded the former system as being good in the first place, this new system is just no better, and definitely not a fix. As I have stated in numerous other housing threads prior to the launch of this system.

No it clearly is not. It stung even more when you lose the chance to buy a plot just because you werent in the right time window for obtaining it. People would have to get stupidly lucky which from the sounds of the posts surfacing to argue otherwise that seems to be the case. There's nothing good about that for a very limited housing system. At least with the lotto, you dont have to worry about trying to fit a schedule to dedicate time to click a placard or fight over bots. Everyone is under equal chance for the rng gods to smile on them. The new system is much better for the majority of folks. There's no "fixing" a system that clearly wasnt built to accommodate every player in this game, only to make the acquisition for it as fair as possible for everyone.

[dapperfaffer]

Official SE citation needed.

It was an answer to a question in one of the live letter broadcasts. iirc, it was a mr.happy recap video where he was discussing the availability of personal housing and something about Dark Knight. I would look it up, but I don't know where to.

[SweetestLily]

Placard clicking was better. I never thought this system would end up good, just for the early adopters, or people on low pop servers really.

Lol. The people who camped a placard for 10 hours to lose to someone who showed up 2 minutes earlier disagree.

[Sairys]

I will never stop laughing at the fact that the playerbase has been BEGGING for a lottery system on these forums for YEARS. They finally cave and give you all exactly what you asked for, and now you realize you didn't actually want one after all and are pulling the classic kindergarten tantrum because now you want the old way back. This is exactly why they sometimes hesitate to give us what we want. Because people themselves don't even know what they want.

I'm super interested in how, even why, you've been monitoring the countless individuals commenting on these threads to the point that you can say with certainty that those who are annoyed at the lottery are those that were begging for it. My observation has been more that the people who like the lottery hated the old system while those that hate the lottery typically seem to focus on how it's not an actual solution.

[Bukachu]

I will never stop laughing at the fact that the playerbase has been BEGGING for a lottery system on these forums for YEARS. They finally cave and give you all exactly what you asked for, and now you realize you didn't actually want one after all and are pulling the classic kindergarten tantrum because now you want the old way back. This is exactly why they sometimes hesitate to give us what we want. Because people themselves don't even know what they want.

Well, playerbase and people are a very "wide" terms. and each person may have a different thought, lottery did some good, but most people think instanced housing will do even more good.

even if you did instanced housing one or two gamers would say that they dont care about that, and want the feel of neighbourhood, you cant just please 100% of people, but pleasing more and more is how it works imo.

[SweetestLily]

I'm super interested in how, even why, you've been monitoring the countless individuals commenting on these threads to the point that you can say with certainty that those who are annoyed at the lottery are those that were begging for it. My observation has been more that the people who like the lottery hated the old system while those that hate the lottery typically seem to focus on how it's not an actual solution.

For years these forums have been littered with the we need a lottery post. There have been probably over a hundred of them. Now you come here and see the exact opposite tone. I've literally seen a few of the same people who begged for a lottery now crying about it. So yes it's funny to see a complete 180 and no you don't need to "monitor" anyone to see threads that are plastered on the front page for all to see. Nice try though.

[Sairys]

It was an answer to a question in one of the live letter broadcasts. iirc, it was a mr.happy recap video where he was discussing the availability of personal housing and something about Dark Knight. I would look it up, but I don't know where to.

Seems trivial, look for Live Letter recaps that mention both. If you can't find it then it's more likely a comment from Mr.Happy than Yoshi-P.

[SweetestLily]

Well, playerbase and people are a very "wide" terms. and each person may have a different thought, lottery did some good, but most people think instanced housing will do even more good.

even if you did instanced housing one or two gamers would say that they dont care about that, and want the feel of neighbourhood, you cant just please 100% of people, but pleasing more and more is how it works imo.

I am one of the people who vouch for instant housing. Its the only solution that will end this madness imo. But even then there are some who like community feel. So yes you're right about not being able to please everyone.

[yoshikwalla]

I knew the lottery system would only be a bandaid for a larger problem. We need instanced housing. This housing system needs to be removed and replaced, and homeowners need to be refunded.