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  1. #21
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    was only 5 people for the house I bid on... didnt get it though. I blame rng, not the system
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    Quote Originally Posted by EZGIL View Post
    So, to like... state the obvious, every lottery from here on out is going to be very long odds of winning.
    Sounds exactly like the housing market in the United States at this time, only a lottery is a much better solution than an auction that you have no chance of winning because you're buying a house within your budget.

    There were many calls in the Forums for this system to exist in the game. Sometimes you get what you asked for ...
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    This particularly sucks for new players though lol, never had the chance to placard click and never will, so the only option is the lotto (asides from apartments ofc)
    Placard clicking was better. I never thought this system would end up good, just for the early adopters, or people on low pop servers really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I'm just laughing at this thread now. All of a sudden we're getting people being nostalgic over the old plot acquiring system.

    Let that all sink in folks.
    We're all down bad man xD
    In all seriousness ik it's luck based but at least with clicking I was able to get 2 houses (at different times) on my old main. With the lotto now on my current it's been no mas
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    this.
    housing is supposed to be limited and prestigious. its been that way since housing was first implemented.
    Official SE citation needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    I walked up to a house with no bidders, paid and got it the next day. Same with my friend who is now my neighbour. The supply is not enough but the current system is vastly superior to the old one.
    And just what year and world did this happen?

    I won't deny that it was much easier to get a house at certain times in the past but that was because the supply was meeting or exceeding demand.

    Those days are gone. The player base has quadrupled in size while we've only gotten a 40% increase in the number of houses. The demand far exceeds the supply, not the other way around.

    Going back to placard spam means so many players camping the same placard that you won't be able to see them all. We already had that happening last year even on Goblet smalls.

    It also would bring back the RMT sellers and their click bots in droves. The current system can't stop RMT but it has curtailed it.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 07-16-2022 at 09:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    We're all down bad man xD
    In all seriousness ik it's luck based but at least with clicking I was able to get 2 houses (at different times) on my old main. With the lotto now on my current it's been no mas
    I personally never had a problem with FCFS getting a house. I only placard clicked the one time on Balmung to get a small in a terrible location where there were only 5 people at the placard with 3 of them afk most of the time. I clicked for hours and won and then later transferred to a poolside in Brimming Hearts after a bunch opened up with the restart of demolition.

    I can see how the lottery gives people an even shot but it sure makes it harder for people to win one in my view given a lot more people are participating.

    Hopefully the lotto has given the developers some real numbers on the demand for housing and they'll start to deal with providing a system that gives one to everyone that wants one.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I can see how the lottery gives people an even shot but it sure makes it harder for people to win one in my view given a lot more people are participating.
    Which is something many of us warned the lottery proponents about when the lottery suggestions were first being made.

    Some of them said they'd be happy to accept lower odds in exchange for having time to play the rest of the game instead of standing at a placard.

    It's a shame more didn't speak up at the time to express their own opinions.
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  8. #28
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    I am pretty sure Yoshi wishes housing had just been left at FC only as it had been waaaaaay back

    on the plus side, you no longer need to have a max level job, a certain rank in a Grand company or any of the other restrictions they used to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    this.
    housing is supposed to be limited and prestigious. its been that way since housing was first implemented.
    Not really, Housing was implemented for FCs only in 2.1. There were 3 districts and 12 wards so space for 1080 FCs in the early days of the game and, afaik, there was more than enough for that purpose so that every FC could get one.

    It was later updated to include personal use in patch 2.38 and Yoshi-P has been apologising for the lack of availability since that day.

    The system could be prestigious if it were something you actually earn, but right now there's nothing "prestigious" about owning a house in FFXIV because those that do just got lucky. If people with plots think that makes them admirable then the actual word for that would be pretentious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Placard clicking was better. I never thought this system would end up good, just for the early adopters, or people on low pop servers really.
    I clicked on a placard for over 13 hours and didn't win in the end. I don't want anyone to have to experience that just to try and get a house.
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