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    Teaudix Suidoreux
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    I'm all for this, grandfathered plots and players need to be gradually trimmed down. It's not about taking from other players, it's about enforcing the rules evenly and fairly, currently the people and FCs who have multiple houses grandfathered in are a huge loophole that needs closing. Give them some time to pick the houses they want to keep, and clear them out, and gradually reduce the number of allowed houses per service account and per FC until it's where it's currently at for everyone else. They've had years to enjoy their loophole in the system, but there's clearly not enough for everyone and the first step would be to limit everyone to just 1 if there's not enough.
    I wish people (to use a more friendly word here) like you would understand that there wasnt an loophole to begin with. SE said in the past buy whatever you can/want. After this they introduced the new rule (e.g. buy one Perso/FC House per World from the Placard). And this one is still in charge.

    With your analogy it would be ok for IRS to retrospectively change tax rulings to getting more money from you. Jeez I wish people would use their brain even once in these days.
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    I wish people (to use a more friendly word here) like you would understand that there wasnt an loophole to begin with. SE said in the past buy whatever you can/want. After this they introduced the new rule (e.g. buy one Perso/FC House per World from the Placard). And this one is still in charge.

    With your analogy it would be ok for IRS to retrospectively change tax rulings to getting more money from you. Jeez I wish people would use their brain even once in these days.
    There's nothing wrong with changing the rules. The rules existed then, but that was a problem with players hoarding houses, so they changed them. Everyone should have to follow the same rules. Why do you think it's ok that one person can own an entire ward while housing is out of reach for a huge number of players? They had plenty of time to enjoy their private ward, years in fact, but it's clear the system is straining and that needs to change.
    It's not about punishing players, it's about making fair, consistent rules for everyone so that everyone can use housing.
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    There's nothing wrong with changing the rules. The rules existed then, but that was a problem with players hoarding houses, so they changed them. Everyone should have to follow the same rules. Why do you think it's ok that one person can own an entire ward while housing is out of reach for a huge number of players? They had plenty of time to enjoy their private ward, years in fact, but it's clear the system is straining and that needs to change.
    It's not about punishing players, it's about making fair, consistent rules for everyone so that everyone can use housing.
    The solution is not to take away things from players who were doing nothing wrong at the time. The solution is to pressure SE to fix the problem by finding a way to provide housing for everyone. Redirect your energy to asking SE why they aren't working to alleviate the housing shortage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Don't you have something better to do with your life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    The solution is not to take away things from players who were doing nothing wrong at the time. The solution is to pressure SE to fix the problem by finding a way to provide housing for everyone. Redirect your energy to asking SE why they aren't working to alleviate the housing shortage.
    Like I said it's not about taking things away from players it's about even and fair enforcement. Why do you feel entitled to have multiple houses while I can't have any? Don't you see a problem with that?
    Why do you feel entitled to hoarding multiple of a limited resource and then coming onto the forums to tell people without one why they can't and shouldn't be able to have one?

    and again, it's not about taking it from anyone or punishing anyone, it's about FAIR and EVEN enforcement of the rules. they are only able to have those plots because of loopholes and grandfathered in rules. Those have to be closed eventually, anything else is just ignoring the elephant in the room.
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    Isrun Whitewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Like I said it's not about taking things away from players it's about even and fair enforcement. Why do you feel entitled to have multiple houses while I can't have any? Don't you see a problem with that?
    Why do you feel entitled to hoarding multiple of a limited resource and then coming onto the forums to tell people without one why they can't and shouldn't be able to have one?

    and again, it's not about taking it from anyone or punishing anyone, it's about FAIR and EVEN enforcement of the rules. they are only able to have those plots because of loopholes and grandfathered in rules. Those have to be closed eventually, anything else is just ignoring the elephant in the room.
    First, please do not assume what I do and don't have. Second, I have my personal home and FC house because I had the gil at the time to purchase them and did so. I've had them, literally, for years. Pre-dating most of the current rules. They are decorated and loved and used. Who are you to come along now and tell me it's not fair that I have them and demand that SE take them away from me and my FC?

    Second, if everyone had access to their own housing, would you even give a care if other people had more than one house? Probably not. Because you have housing, and everyone else has equal access to housing features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Don't you have something better to do with your life?