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  1. #141
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    Nikita's Avatar
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    Her Majesty
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    Quote Originally Posted by CamAlch View Post
    I understand what you are saying, Jake. But the solution to this problem is not keeping a broken mechanic that allows players to afk while someone else (who has potentially put in weeks of time grinding) progresses their character for them.

    The solution is to give better grouping options, that allow older higher level players to group with new, lower level players. And then to give them more fun and engaging content so they are not forced to only endure monotony.
    Good point, we do need more engaging content. I would love it if there were fun things to do like quests with interesting mechanics, especially group quests, even PvP will be offering EXP as a reward in 2.0. The problem is, they are adding all of this end game content like AF armor, dungeons, primals, NMs, etc and there is no fun and engaging content to do along the way (well, maybe besides Toto Rak...). They are faced with a decision, force players to endure through leveling methods they find to be a bore (grinding monsters/leves) or give them the option to bypass it so they can participate in all of this fun stuff.

    I will admit that "afk leveling" is not a good system, but it's what they gave us. Until they give is something more desirable, its the only alternative we have. I think what the developers have in mind is, instead of taking away the only method of circumventing the grind, they are going to leave it in until the new systems are fully fleshed out in 2.0.

    The simple fact is that in its current state, leveling is not a fun process for many people, and while I understand that some people may love grinding monsters, not everyone shares that sentiment. Just like some people aren't satisfied with end game, some people aren't satisfied with leveling. Both areas are lacking.

    All I want are additional methods of leveling, once they deliver that, I could not care less about PLing.
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  2. #142
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    Faultz Break
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    i miss the classic camps , the pull the mob to the group, and dungeon crawls while leveling. i looked for that but all i could find was pull all hit fire and wait for respawn.

    what if they were to add level sync with an incentive? look at EQ2 mentoring system not saying it has to be exactly that but an incentive or a + from high levels jumping down
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  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClearEnd View Post
    I was in a "leveling" group th eother day at mites, not a PL group, a leveling group.

    We were all in 30s iwas told to equip fire on my pugilist and the whole pt just spammed fire while 1 person swarmed them up. that was not fun and i did not even use 1 class skill that entire party.

    Its not just PL its the whole party system/battle why pull single when you can just pull all and everyone hit fire
    That sounds like it really sucked. I'd have told them to go screw, I'm punching things. The problem is that there is so little consequence for a total lack of battle strategy right now that it doesn't matter who tanks. Mobs need much greater attack & defense.
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  4. #144
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    i want fights to last more than 2 seconds

    what is boring about the leveling now is the mindless grind rinse and repeat on the same exact mobs. There are tons of mobs out there but ill go kill mites instead of goats cuz they are easier.

    Marmots -> Dodos-> Mites->Raptors welcome to lv 50

    tons of mobs no reason to fight anythign esle i can mass pull these and aoe them down no problem

    Whatever happened to havign a deticated heal tank and cc ?
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    Last edited by ClearEnd; 03-22-2012 at 10:06 AM.
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia View Post
    (Anyone and/or Everyone) I will offer the same advice I offer to everyone. If you don't like PL playing the game, or the upcoming Level sync camp-mongering that will just add more variety and function to the game. Please just do us a huge favor delete your character, quit the game and quit your account. I am all for you having your own opinion but if all you can do is complain about something you personally thought broke a game or didn't like. Just leave. Problem solved.
    You people really do live in your own little world, don't you? Hilarious. Do you have any idea as to why we're about to go through a server merge soon..? Let me drop a little hint:

    PEOPLE HAVE LEFT. IN DROVES.
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    Last edited by Xoo; 03-22-2012 at 10:13 AM.
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClearEnd View Post
    i want fights to last more than 2 seconds

    what is boring about the leveling now is the mindless grind rinse and repeat on the same exact mobs. There are tons of mobs out there but ill go kill mites instead of goats cuz they are easier.

    Marmots -> Dodos-> Mites->Raptors welcome to lv 50

    tons of mobs no reason to fight anythign esle i can mass pull these and aoe them down no problem

    Whatever happened to havign a deticated heal tank and cc ?
    Unfortunately, there are many EXP camps all over the world at all level ranges, but players have always looked for efficiency and ease of the kill. Mobs that don't AoE and have weak defense are going to be at the top of the list.
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  7. #147
    Player Riv's Avatar
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    N'aivir Alexaire
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I thought lvl sync worked pretty damn good in XI. I also agree that the amount of PLing going on is pretty ridiculous. The majority of people "lvling up" are just getting PL'd, so it removes them from the pool of people that are even searching for or making exp parties. I honestly don't see what is so popular about PLing. With the jobs, you don't even need so many classes leveled up. Most people are not doing it to "catch up to their friends", they are doing it because it's easymode and they have nothing better to do i guess.
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  8. #148
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Power Leveling doesn't necessarily ruin this game, but it takes away from progression of your character. Some people won't know what half their abilities do near/at 50, won't know what causes the most hate, etc etc.

    I've powerleveled a friend 3 levels ONLY because I wanted to be in range with him to party up. Level sync would make situations like this possible without power leveling.

    And no one is asking for super hardcore leveling like XI. Steady progression, not a monotonous grind. Why can't we just have that?
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  9. #149
    Player Riv's Avatar
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    N'aivir Alexaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    You people really do live in your own little world, don't you? Hilarious. Do you have any idea as to why we're about to go through a server merge soon..? Let me drop a little hint:

    PEOPLE HAVE LEFT. IN DROVES.
    It's more like....people were never here to being with, past the first week....maybe month? Servers have been pretty desolate for a very long time.
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  10. #150
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    Au Rore
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    at the least, there needs to be a direct option right in the main menu that says "Seek Party", and it places an icon next to your name by hitting Enter.

    Maybe even an option right underneath that that says "Search Party Members", and a UI pops up with options.

    If it's not buried in a confusing menu system, maybe more people would seek rather than either shout, or find something else to do.
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