How can we rank up or even have a chance to rank if...

[KageTokage]

I feel like the matchmaking usually tries to put you with people within a few tiers of you, but if it can't find anyone it'll shove into a bracket several tiers higher/lower because in gold I was getting put up against bronze/low silver players or platinum/diamond periodically.

But yeah, I think if they want to keep the mode fresh we need more then new series rewards. Given the relatively simplistic design of the CC maps, I feel like they could stand introduce new ones every few patches, perhaps as part of an additional rotation that switches out the current two "gimmick" maps for different ones.

[Gserpent]

Switching out maps is a key element to keeping a variety of competitive games fresh. Imagine if Starcraft never changed up its map pool or every Counterstrike tournament was just Dust, Dust2, and Nuke. It'd get boring fast.

Map differences are also substantial for gameplay shifts. Some builds just aren't going to be effective on a large map, but on a small map like Berlingrad, you'll see them used effectively. Large maps mean long rush distances, so you're not likely to see aggro builds... but you might see proxy cheese because the other player might try to go macro because they think "well they're not going to be aggressive because the distance is so long." Stuff like that. I don't know if CC is complex enough to really allow for that, but it would still be nice to get new scenery every now and then.

[SweetPete]

The reason ranked is pretty dead now is because of how SE did the tier rewards. Why couldn’t we get all the frames if we got to Crystal? Makes no sense. We should get every tier frame we bested. Allot of ranked players are purposefully down ranking because they want the Diamond frame etc. Most are playing casual to get their pvp fix.

No one wants to get the same frame just with a number 2 on it. No thanks.

[ShinyChariot]

The reason ranked is pretty dead now is because of how SE did the tier rewards. Why couldn’t we get all the frames if we got to Crystal? Makes no sense. We should get every tier frame we bested. Allot of ranked players are purposefully down ranking because they want the Diamond frame etc. Most are playing casual to get their pvp fix.

No one wants to get the same frame just with a number 2 on it. No thanks.

Damn, I should've gotten the yellow number 1 frame. But then it's impossible to get the brown number 2 frame.

[Nanne]

No one wants to get the same frame just with a number 2 on it. No thanks.

They gave out exclusive armors and mounts for years and people still didn't want them because only 100 could get them so 99,9999% of the players didn't even bother trying it once. This just isn't a competitive community for these sorts of game modes

[JamieRose]

You can take the player out of bronze, but you can't take the bronze out of the player.

That would be true if the system wasn't designed to keep you in bronze.

[ThaCa]

Didn't someone post the public achievement data and like 50% of PvP players were on Crystal while the lower ranks had only 10% each?

[JamieRose]

Didn't someone post the public achievement data and like 50% of PvP players were on Crystal while the lower ranks had only 10% each?

A lot of people are cheating then.

[Gserpent]

That would be true if the system wasn't designed to keep you in bronze.

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It's not. It's *incredibly* easy to reach Crystal if you are at all consistent and competent. Yeah, you'll get bad teammates but the common denominator is you. If you're still in Bronze after a hundred games... hate to say it, bud, but it's because you're Bronze.

[JamieRose]

There's a reason I have this person on ignore.