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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeminiReed View Post
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    They are as intended. Don't worry, people aren't unsubbing over it. Clearly. People won't unsub over island sanctuary either, for that matter.

    When did I ever say I was happy with how they turned out? I have literally been a broken record since LAUNCH. I played viera at LAUNCH. I am sick of the assumption of me believing one way, just because I explain how something is. Maybe it's because I do not pretty it up enough?
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  2. #102
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    Then you are living under a rock. I hope it is comfortable at least.
    An issue with Hrothgar ears doesnt, as far as I know, constitute a "disaster".

    As for "under a rock"..well lets just say I am nowhere near as negative as many of you are, I can and will appreciate what they have done to make this game one of the best in the market.
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    I personally am really looking forward to the Islands thingy! I tend to keep to myself so things like this that give me more to do are always welcome
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    An issue with Hrothgar ears doesnt, as far as I know, constitute a "disaster".

    As for "under a rock"..well lets just say I am nowhere near as negative as many of you are, I can and will appreciate what they have done to make this game one of the best in the market.
    If anyone is under a rock it's those people you're talking about. Everyone else is out there enjoying the game, while they sit in this place and write complaints that reach no one.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    If anyone is under a rock it's those people you're talking about. Everyone else is out there enjoying the game, while they sit in this place and write complaints that reach no one.
    Yup.

    I am well aware there are issues ingame, there always are, there always will be. That never changes. They ARE however, the minority in stark comparison to the brilliant work thats been done.

    Endwalker MSQ, despite the brickbats here, has been acclaimed as one of the best in the MMO genre. Every single review has Classes are great, minor tweaks here and there sure, but they sure as hell arent the "disaster" they are painted to be, not by a long shot.

    The new SMN..I love it, easy, smooth, fluid gameplay, MCH fast and furious gunplay, SAM is just as much fun if not more so, so one ability was taken away, BIG DEAL, we adapt, we change, we get used to it,..again, whats the drama about?

    The smallest thing is held up as a "major catastrophe", sheesh.

    As for hats, I am reminded that the devs, on their own time and not having to be told, turned around and found 500 designs that would allow headgear..sure the cosmetics need improving, but that will happen in time...have we forgotten the major upgrades to character designs on the way?

    Glamour, we will always need more space for the MASSIVE amount of gear variations we have, then again, look at the work thats been done to GIVE us those variations, the new weapons, housing designs...each patch has MORE content in it than a full expac elsewhere.."theres nothing to do", from people who think raiding is all there is, ignoring the HUGE variety of other activities.

    FF 14 is taking its place as one of the major frontrunners in the MMO genre, thanks to a dedicated and brilliant team who have gone, and always will, that extra mile for their players. Remember when they announced a delay to Endwalker launch?..did ANYONE see Yoshi's face and eyes?

    The man was exhausted, Id say he hadnt slept in 18 hours, Ive watched his interviews, watched the videos on the evolution from 1.0 to today...really, can ANYONE here say that the same team that brought FF 14 back from the brink after 1.0, is now incapable of maintaining that standard of excellence?

    Close to the end, in one of the final raids, was this line from Youtube

    "Endsinger has failed its dps check, the Warrior of Light has enraged"


    An epic moment in a story that has captivated me, torn at my heartstrings.....and reduced me to moments of helpless laughter.

    "Lacklustre"..are you kidding me?????

    Seriously, this forum, molehills, mountains...*sigh*

    Have a little faith...ya know?
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 07-12-2022 at 12:27 PM.

  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I have said something similar to this before in several of my arguments on the forums. Being their "last chance", meaning the last chance to add one of the most heavily requested races (viera), and a beast race to round out the races. Limiting features such as "unique heads", having limiting factors also conveniently means these races would require less upkeep for the future. I do not believe they are "half completed", but intentionally designed this way. They are completed.
    Look I love to bash on devs all the time but I really doubt they intentionally made the heads to be so poorly designed as to not allow hats. They were probably just crunched for time when adding them and had to cut corners. Being forced to implement something badly does not mean that is how they wanted it to come out. They clearly care about the game and would never make the viera and hrothgar the way they did if given the time to do it properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrotica View Post
    I really doubt they intentionally made the heads to be so poorly designed as to not allow hats.
    I mean, the hats are one thing. But I really doubt the devs would intentionally make it so a race was unable to change a basic customization option, so basic that the previous five races AND the other additional race that was also implemented at the same time have the option, without needing to purchase a fantasia.
    They clearly weren't finished and had to use unorthodox methods to push them out.

    On the subject of the Island Sanctuary itself, I'm going to wait until I see what is actually implemented to see if the wait was worth the hullabaloo. Already got what I looked forward to the most in the game Monkey Paw'd twice, best to not expect a lot especially when the devs themselves are saying to maintain expectations.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrotica View Post
    Look I love to bash on devs all the time but I really doubt they intentionally made the heads to be so poorly designed as to not allow hats. They were probably just crunched for time when adding them and had to cut corners. Being forced to implement something badly does not mean that is how they wanted it to come out. They clearly care about the game and would never make the viera and hrothgar the way they did if given the time to do it properly.
    Here are some quotes from Yoshida.

    “Once more, I want people to understand that Hrothgar’s head shape is truly unique and custom made here. We created them and implemented them in this way, hoping the furries will love it"
    Bolded. "hoping the furries will love it", the heads are custom made, in the hope players would "love" them.

    Q: With the two new races' unique heads, how will their headgear work?

    A: It won't be displayed, because those face parts wouldn't work in FFXIV's system if headgear were involved. Even Viera ears would've had to be moved down to where Miqo'te ears are. It would've been meaningless if you couldn't go all-out creating characters from these new races, so we decided that helmets wouldn't be necessary.
    Bolded. The "face parts" take priority. "It would've been meaningless if you couldn't go all-out creating characters from these new races", Implying that in order to "go all out" faces were done this way, intentionally, as a quality choice (further down quoted, bolded), for this race's design.

    "well, originally the ears and the head are integrally molded and it’s the actual specifications [we need to adhere to] in order to implement Hrothgar into the game"
    "The head shape we use for hrothgar is designed completely exclusively for the race. It's precisely because of this fact that we're able to create their facial appearances, and their current quality is only available because the faces and hair are completed as a set.

    Originally, I had announced at the outset that we would be unable to add more hairstyles for them. However, we continued to receive comments asking for more hrothgar hairstyles to be added somehow. In order to address this feedback, we went with a plan where we would maintain the shape of the head and have the ears "hidden" in the hair"
    There is a previous quote of these races getting hairstyles, although some debate on whether he had originally meant hrothgar then, or if he forgot he made this statement. Regardless, to me, this implies the intention was not to give them more hairstyles, and this was a compromise in order to accommodate player requests.

    If players would prefer to disbelieve Yoshida's own words (much like with Island Sanctuary), according to these quotes, that is on them. I digress. This isn't the thread for it. Quote me and move it to one of the many viera and/or hrothgar threads and we can discuss it there.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 07-12-2022 at 01:25 PM.
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  9. #109
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    I suspected these quotes were out there. I'm happy someone found them. As much of a tangent as it is, it fits perfectly with what's been going on with Island Sanctuary, where Yoshida says something and people just put their hands over their ears and babble.

    I think we still have another few weeks before we can actually get enough info to be excited about it. I'm interested to see what it is we get from what sounds like a minigame.
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  10. #110
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    There are other long-running threads to discuss Viera Hrothgar issues if you want instead of derailing a thread intended for those who want to talk about Island Sanctuary.

    Please take your complaints there. Thank you.
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