For the love of god - give us Level Sync

[Dargoth_Draconia]

Duh!

If you're going to attack a post, at least have the balls to attack the whole thing.

I did attack the whole thing. What part of that could you not read and comprehend?

A few of my thoughts:

I despised Level Sync in FFXI. The system was poorly thought out, and resulted in a problem of people level syncing parties to the lowest level, regardless of the level difference of players. You could have people 5 levels apart and everyone would want to sync. The other issue I had with it, was the bonuses from gear being reduced way too much. Why should you need a set of lvl 20 gear, lvl 30 gear, etc when you're level 50 but just happened to get a qufim party because they couldn't fill up without you. Yes, the system worked in it's intention: allowing people to party regardless of level, resulting in everyone being able to level easier.

That being said, it would not be too difficult to resolve the above issues in a manner that does not break gameplay. Level sync could work in FFXIV in a couple of ways that would truly revitalize low level parties.

The optimal level for gear would work, I suppose, so that players would not be overpowered at lower levels. Materia could just give boosts similar to what it would give at the lower level - ex. you have EVA+20 materia x2 on your feet, when the gear is synced down to 21~40 it becomes eva+10x2. Don't remove all of the boosts gear gives, scale them properly.

One thing that could be done that would truly revitalize low level parties, and even if gear did not work well when synced down so higher level players would feel the need to get level appropriate gear. The singular thing that could make level sync work in this game:

Boost spiritbond rate based on how much lower you're syncing than your actual level, but only with a full party.

Higher level players need a reason to join up with lower levels. This mechanic would need to have a maximum to it, so that there's no abuse with lower level characters. If spiritbonding is faster by joining a lower level party (and in this case, the lowest level party you can find) people will actually do it. This rewards players looking to help their friends or randoms out, and gives the low level parties a larger player pool to search from.

I disagree with this but not fully so. I think the system was brilliantly thought out and it was up to the players to decide if everyone had to sync to the lowest or not. Which if you did EXP was better so how was that an issue? I do agree with the gear part that gear shouldn't have been nerfed to being useless but they probably didn't want to re-itemize every single piece of gear to fit for every level gap because FFXI had a mad grip amount of items. Though I do think the system would work essentially the same but with modifications all around because the game works differently anyways. Though I would like to see this built into 2.0 so there would be a lot less likely to run into any kind of issues that would definitely arise if put into current FFXIV.

I can't play the way I want to play, which is why I started this thread, I want to play with 8 other people, not solo.. not duo... not a PL party, a real XP party of 8 people.

Show me where the option is to get a fast XP party at level 10-40 because I sure as hell can't find one., regardless of if I shout or use the search feature.

That post was for the person I quoted directly. Server mergers are about to happen so if your server is currently dead and has no new players it will soon. I have seen an influx of new players on Wutai and majority of the time there is a low to mid level party going on but the problem is at the moment is not that many players left have classes below 30, so your post makes sense a level sync would be godsend.

This is already nearly TL-DR because full quotes, but "In 2.0 there will be a lot more dungeons, ID level style dungeon (I don't get this one), adding level sync, and checks to see ex/rare flags." taken from Reinhart translation post of ConnectOn March interview with Yoshi-P. Here is link http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post531699

[Keith_Dragoon]

I think in the player's poll I put in a request for level sync in every box I was told for more info. I tied the lack of sync into all my concerns. :P

Right now I also along with other LS members who went on a extended vacation back when everyone PL'd or partied their jobs 30-50 have just been taking turns PLing each other's jobs up to 30-35ish just so we can start getting xp parties. Its the most boring thing ever but it beats sitting inmy Inn or in Ul'dah shouting for an exp party in the teens and wasting the whole day getting nothing done.

[Riaayo]

If you don't want to be power leveled nobody is forcing you. Complaining that you have to do it because it is there is stupid and amounts to you having to drink smoke or do drugs because they exist. Stop it.

Level Sync was a system that broke FFXI far more than power leveling ever could have. It allowed people to find specific level ranges to maximize their exp gain and did not equal parties happening at every level any more than not having it does. While the concept was cool and really useful when not abused, I feel it was abused far more than it was used correctly... and in the end you had people at 75 in FFXI who had never used an ability passed the 30s because they never had a party that wasn't capped to 36 or some-such.

I don't want to say that there is not a problem with low level leveling as I see a lot of people bring it up and at a glance it seems like it can be a pain in the ass. I believe this needs to be remedied with more interesting, engaging and fun leves (along with possibly more rewarding, I don't know the exp gain from them at this point), or an entirely different system of battle of questing to reward players time. I don't think this game will ever offer solo/duo play an exp rate on par with a party, though.

At the moment we are in a lull where a large majority of players have most classes 50 or every class they want 50 to 50, which leaves the overall low level party scene pretty dry. The problem there is in the fact this game is not pulling in new players, nor are there new classes being added or players leveling alternate characters up. When 2.0 hits (if this game succeeds) you will see a large influx of people to play with, and while I realize that's a long time away that is just how this is going to work. I'd ask that you just be patient and work your way up, or cave and just get help with it... but I see some people saying that getting rid of power leveling is the answer, and it's not.

Truthfully every time I see people complaining about power leveling, I just see someone who spent too much time leveling and is now mad somebody else did it faster. It's really just self-absorbed, and while I understand some people think power leveling caused this legitimately and aren't just elitists, I just can't agree for the previously mentioned reasons.

[Dragon]

If you don't want to be power leveled nobody is forcing you. Complaining that you have to do it because it is there is stupid and amounts to you having to drink smoke or do drugs because they exist. Stop it.

Level Sync was a system that broke FFXI far more than power leveling ever could have. It allowed people to find specific level ranges to maximize their exp gain and did not equal parties happening at every level any more than not having it does. While the concept was cool and really useful when not abused, I feel it was abused far more than it was used correctly... and in the end you had people at 75 in FFXI who had never used an ability passed the 30s because they never had a party that wasn't capped to 36 or some-such.

I don't want to say that there is not a problem with low level leveling as I see a lot of people bring it up and at a glance it seems like it can be a pain in the ass. I believe this needs to be remedied with more interesting, engaging and fun leves (along with possibly more rewarding, I don't know the exp gain from them at this point), or an entirely different system of battle of questing to reward players time. I don't think this game will ever offer solo/duo play an exp rate on par with a party, though.

At the moment we are in a lull where a large majority of players have most classes 50 or every class they want 50 to 50, which leaves the overall low level party scene pretty dry. The problem there is in the fact this game is not pulling in new players, nor are there new classes being added or players leveling alternate characters up. When 2.0 hits (if this game succeeds) you will see a large influx of people to play with, and while I realize that's a long time away that is just how this is going to work. I'd ask that you just be patient and work your way up, or cave and just get help with it... but I see some people saying that getting rid of power leveling is the answer, and it's not.

Truthfully every time I see people complaining about power leveling, I just see someone who spent too much time leveling and is now mad somebody else did it faster. It's really just self-absorbed, and while I understand some people think power leveling caused this legitimately and aren't just elitists, I just can't agree for the previously mentioned reasons.

Don't like Lv.Sync? Don't participate then. Problem solved.

But hey, Lv.Sync actually did help FFXI, it actually gave veterans like myself the ability to level with newbies without hand-tossing them a Lv.75 job, nothing that Power Leveling is capable of.

[Nikita]

LOL@Optional..

You know, its funny you laugh at me for saying optional. I have not been offered a PL ONCE on my server, currently the most populated (Selbina) since power leveling was broken and level range was ignored. I literally had to beg my friend to burn me through some levels on my Gladiator.

So maybe you're full of shit, or maybe your server is so low pop that power leveling is the only option. If it is the latter, then server merges should fix that for ya'. On my server though, power leveling is completely optional and I only WISH I was bombarded with offers for power leveling because quite frankly, I am just bored of the same grind over and over. WTB variety.

[Xoo]

Don't like Lv.Sync? Don't participate then. Problem solved.

But hey, Lv.Sync actually did help FFXI, it actually gave veterans like myself the ability to level with newbies without hand-tossing them a Lv.75 job, nothing that Power Leveling is capable of.

Sorry, but PL in FFXI was a whole different beast than it is in this game. Players actually still had to participate and pay relative attention to the action. By worlds, it was still much more entertaining than what we now have. Tanks still had to voke first, pullers still had to pull, nukers still got to nuke. We don't have any of that in this PL system.

[Xoo]

You know, its funny you laugh at me for saying optional. I have not been offered a PL ONCE on my server, currently the most populated (Selbina) since power leveling was broken and level range was ignored. I literally had to beg my friend to burn me through some levels on my Gladiator.

So maybe you're full of shit, or maybe your server is so low pop that power leveling is the only option. If it is the latter, then server merges should fix that for ya'. On my server though, power leveling is completely optional and I only WISH I was bombarded with offers for power leveling because quite frankly, I am just bored of the same grind over and over. WTB variety.

I'll tell you the real gas behind your post here: "I had to beg my friend to burn me through some levels on my Gladiator". Are you saying you were out of options or just lazy? How funny is that!

I assure you that I'm full of many things, including the thing you suggest.

[Nikita]

I'll tell you the real gas behind your post here: "I had to beg my friend to burn me through some levels on my Gladiator". Are you saying you were out of options or just lazy? How funny is that!

I assure you that I'm full of many things, including the thing you suggest.

Lawl ur so funny! Umm no, I just hate tanking and I wanted Sentinel for Ifrit, to answer your question. Lazy? If lacking motivation to grind out levels in a rather bland world on the same monsters for hours is lazy, then HELL YES I WAS LAZY. Do you really think I am offended by this? I have no problem at all admitting I would rather get power leveled than grind in this game, as it currently is at least. Go flex your e-peen elsewhere, because if that was supposed to offend me, it failed rather miserably.

[Xoo]

Lawl ur so funny! Umm no, I just hate tanking and I wanted Sentinel for Ifrit, to answer your question. Lazy? If lacking motivation to grind out levels in a rather bland world on the same monsters for hours is lazy, then HELL YES I WAS LAZY. Do you really think I am offended by this? I have no problem at all admitting I would rather get power leveled than grind in this game, as it currently is at least. Go flex your e-peen elsewhere, because if that was supposed to offend me, it failed rather miserably.

If you're not a part of the solution, then you're a part of the problem. Go 'play' another game where you're fine to sit back, scratch your nuts and pick your nose while someone else progresses your character for you. Some of us actually enjoy playing the game. You tell me which makes more sense. No, wait. Forget I asked.

[Nikita]

If you're not a part of the solution, then you're a part of the problem. Go 'play' another game where you're fine to sit back, scratch your nuts and pick your nose while someone else progresses your character for you. Some of us actually enjoy playing the game. You tell me which makes more sense. No, wait. Forget I asked.

You're telling me to play another game when I am using a feature that is an intended mechanism within it.

You are the one bitching and moaning about this feature that is indented to be used.

You go play another game.

lol

What a loser.

Your argument literally makes no sense.