This frequency of English localization issues is unacceptable

[aveyond-dreams]

You don't have to be a chef to know when a dish isn't cooked properly, and you don't have to be a localizer to know that something is clearly amiss here.

[Lhanu]

You don't have to be a chef to know when a dish isn't cooked properly, and you don't have to be a localizer to know that something is clearly amiss here.

A (from Yoshi-P): I also consulted with Natsuko Ishikawa to came up with an answer that makes sense when we explain it. As Y’shtola explained it, the ancients being so dense with aether could not have controlled dynamis to stop things at its source. The other ancients that thought okay we’ll summon Zodiark and that’ll be our solution.. but she saw that and determined the actions would be unable to change as a people and we will always be our own undoing. If you look at the dungeon, the Dead Ends, that final boss is our vision for what probably would have happened to the ancients if they just continued as they were. For that reason, she chose to sunder the star to dilute their aether so they might be able to use dynamis and stop the final days at the source. As she herself says, this isn’t really a simple matter of good and evil, and she agonized on if her decision was correct.

I think everyone has their own feelings about Venat, and we want to convey that Hydaelyn isn’t a bad guy, but… it’s this decision she made to split everyone into 14 parts so they can use dynamis. This decision makes me think, she was definitely an ancient huh?

Y'all really be just inventing Yoshi P's opinions on the story for him to cope with the Ascians not being correct.

[Exposure]

You don't have to be a chef to know when a dish isn't cooked properly, and you don't have to be a localizer to know that something is clearly amiss here.

Like, I don't get it, a root of this particular argument as far as I can get is over the depictions of particular characters in Endwalker and how they obviously differ from the original intent, but to use a live letter that had an entire section to Q&As about it:

Q: Venat had good intentions and her plan worked in the end. Was sundering the star really the only way to save it?

[snip for word count but Lhanu happen to quote the first part of it]
At the end of 5.0, we find out that Emet-Selch this whole time has been making decisions about how humanity were imperfect creatures but at the end he gives you a chance and re-evaluates his judgement. Hermes is also concerned with this to the degree that he erases his own memories so he can re-evaluate humanity. He’s really concerned with fairness and humanities worth. Venat herself never talks about herself in this lofty way that she’s making a judgement on mankind, but when we see her in that cutscene and holding that sword, that really is a very ancient moment that shows you how different the wholeness of the ancients were. Normally we wouldn’t be able to make such a decision for all of mankind so I think she really was one of them.

Emet-Selch is very popular, but I agree with Alphinaud when talking about judging people “what right does he have to do that?” and that might be true with Venat as well. If you go back and look at the different parts and the side quests with the ancients you might find it interesting.

you got that general sentiment of "She's not a bad person but she was also still an Ancient with all the flaws that came with it" which is pretty clear throughout the English localization, the game just doesn't go "see she was secretly evil against you the whole time", which would fit with the localization also generally being sympathetic towards Emet and Hermes?

I mean I got kinda baffled reading some of the earlier posts saying how nearly nobody on the English side likes the Ancients/Ascian characters and how they're unfairly maligned because man that is not my experience at all with the more active FFXIV places on the internet.