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  1. #1781
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    These are the same designers that worked on new animations for Holy 3 (skipping Holy 2), and slapping a whopping TEN whole extra potency on it.
    To be fair, that mostly just comes from III (-Ga) generally being the empowered version in naming conventions, and II (-Ra) instead being an AoE.

    Why they followed that convention suddenly for Holy and Glare, yet not for Broil and Malefic before, though... well, that's a mystery.
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  2. #1782
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    To be fair, that mostly just comes from III (-Ga) generally being the empowered version in naming conventions, and II (-Ra) instead being an AoE.

    Why they followed that convention suddenly for Holy and Glare, yet not for Broil and Malefic before, though... well, that's a mystery.
    I understand why they did it, but like you said, the inconsistency is what is questionable. It's less about the name and more about the lazy implementation and the semi-insulting potency they tacked onto it.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  3. #1783
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I understand why they did it, but like you said, the inconsistency is what is questionable. It's less about the name and more about the lazy implementation and the semi-insulting potency they tacked onto it.
    -Ga/III shouldn't mean... "plus a tickle"?
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  4. #1784
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    -Ga/III shouldn't mean... "plus a tickle"?
    In the end, yeah.
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  5. #1785
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    Kasumi Bunja
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I understand why they did it, but like you said, the inconsistency is what is questionable. It's less about the name and more about the lazy implementation and the semi-insulting potency they tacked onto it.
    Hmm, what i wish for is that those evolved skills get more than just potency. Synergy or some kind of reward when used in a certain way and not only just dps... or atleast not a 10 potency increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    When I saw that we were going from Broil III at 290 potency in ShB to Broil IV at 295 potency in EW, I was shaking with how excited I was. I couldn't believe they were so generous with a whole 5 potency. I'm going to probably scream in excitement when 7.0 comes out and Broil V hits 300 potency, playing SCH going to be WILD once it hits 300!!!

  6. #1786
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    Maybe having healers down to such a basic rotation is a good thing after all.
    I mean, tanks who pull every mob in existence without using tank stance, cooldowns or AoE abilities are perfectly fine.
    I see no issue with Blizzard Mages either, or with Summoners prefering not to summon. Or with Ninjas whose favorite Ninjutsu is Rabbit Spam IV. And Red Mages keeping their distance all the time, because of course - they are casters? Fine too! And level 90 Lancers? They ARE easier to play as, so why not?

    But good lord, imagine a HEALER not playing their role. We cannot have that. Right?
    Such pressure lies on their shoulders. One single misstep kills them, leaving back a helpless party, slowly being overwhelmed by such a gravitational loss. Because especially in casual content healers are absolutely indispensable. DPS will never be able to survive the myriads of incomming party-wide AoE. Also Tanks would never be able to keep themselves alive without a healer. Right? There ist just NO way they could do that.

    So of course healers should not have more challenging downtime. Their responsibility is just too much to bear. If anything, Malefic should only be useable outside of parties.
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    Last edited by Xelanar; 07-12-2022 at 08:39 PM.

  7. #1787
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    This is effectively what the lead designer of this game told Healers in the latest live letter.

    Consider if he had said that about your role (tank / dps) for a second and how you would feel.

    Forget the leveling experience, it doesn't matter.

    Forget dungeons up to 90, they don't matter.

    Forget normal raids, EX's, and Savage, they don't matter.

    If you want your job to be engaging, play Ultimate, the hardest content in the game that only a few percentage of actual players do.

    Engagement shouldn't be either 0% or 100%. It shouldn't be either braindead easy in 95% of content or pull your hair out in the hardest thing the game offers.

    The same basic damage rotation from level 4 to level 90 (A 30s dot and a filler spell) is not acceptable gameplay or game design.

    Edit:

    Yoshi-P's statement is about as tone deaf as the Lead Designer of WoW flat out saying they didn't want players playing a certain DPS spec. (Language warning)

    Background: Instead of properly balancing a certain DPS spec, the WoW devs nuked it to the ground so people would play other things.

    Sound familiar?
    The only words that came to mind when reading this were drama queen.
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  8. #1788
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    180 pages... Would it help if YoshiP came and kissed each of you individually on the forehead? Would that make you feel better?

    I don't know who needs to hear this, but this is a video game—play it if it's fun for you, or go do something else if it's not.

    Y'all need to chill.
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  9. #1789
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    Liam Harper
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    Personally I am doing something else. I only log on to raid and manage my FC lately and I'd jump ship the moment a better MMO came along that treated me like I have more than a single brain cell.

    It's just feedback. The developers don't have to do it, but players are perfectly entitled to be vocal about things they really dislike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    180 pages... Would it help if YoshiP came and kissed each of you individually on the forehead? Would that make you feel better?

    I don't know who needs to hear this, but this is a video game—play it if it's fun for you, or go do something else if it's not.

    Y'all need to chill.
    Spoiler: that’s what a lot of us are doing

    Imagine trying to use a discussion forum to put forward criticism and suggestions that could improve the game eh
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