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  1. #51
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    Skiros's Avatar
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    Drake Drakon
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    Jenova
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm always puzzled by how these bot farms involving several characters manage to escape notice of the STF because the scripting is painfully easy to see when there are multiple gathering or FATE bots all following the exact route in near perfect unison.

    That assumes they're actually going to observe these players first-hand instead of monitoring them strictly through their server/client side activity/data, though.
    Who knows what is really going on but I wouldn't be surprised if the STF has all but disbanded.

    Time Period: Apr. 21, 2022 to Apr. 27, 2022

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 1519
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 1

    ・RMT advertising
     ・Accounts terminated: 213

    Time Period: Apr. 14, 2022 to Apr. 20, 2022

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 1,062
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 1
    ・Botting activity (excluding RMT vendors)
     ・Accounts terminated: 3
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 8
    *Botting activity by RMT vendors has been included under "Participation in RMT/prohibited activities."
    ・RMT advertising
     ・Accounts terminated: 339

    Time Period: Apr. 7, 2022 to Apr. 13, 2022

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 1333
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 4

    ・RMT advertising
     ・Accounts terminated: 148

    Time Period: Mar. 31, 2022 to Apr. 6, 2022

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 1608
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 5

    ・RMT advertising
     ・Accounts terminated: 153

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    Compare this to last year:

    Time Period: Apr. 15, 2021 to Apr. 21, 2021

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 2,102
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 13
    ・RMT advertising
     ・Accounts terminated: 702

    Time Period: Apr. 8, 2021 to Apr. 14, 2021

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 3,346
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 16
    ・Botting activity (Using any number of third party tools that allow for automation)
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 6
    *Botting activity by RMT vendors has been included under "Participation in RMT/prohibited activities."
    ・RMT advertising
     ・Accounts terminated: 1,789

    Time Period: Apr. 1, 2021 to Apr. 7, 2021

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 3,258
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 30

    ・RMT advertising
     ・Accounts terminated: 2,209


    Time Period: Mar. 25, 2021 to Mar. 31, 2021

    ・Participation in RMT/prohibited activities
     ・Accounts terminated: 3,793
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 3
    ・Botting activity (Using any number of third party tools that allow for automation)
     ・Accounts terminated: 3
     ・Accounts temporarily suspended: 2
    *Botting activity by RMT vendors has been included under "Participation in RMT/prohibited activities."
    ・RMT advertising
     ・Accounts terminated: 1,991

    Difference is clear to anyone who can do simple arithmetic. They aren't even trying to ban the endgame crafting RMT bots anymore over the last half year.

    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    There's apparently some "all-in-one" PvP add-on/hack/bot that can automatically focus fire low HP players, auto-interrupt "problematic" abilities like LBs, and a whole bunch of other nonsense that makes me question why people even bother playing the game at all.

    At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they made a fully functional PvP bot that can actually put up a better fight then some actual players. They do exist in Frontlines already but their lack of situational/spatial awareness tends to just send them running to their deaths.

    Last season in Feast there were a dozen or so people in the t100 who were boosted and/or use speedhacks/triggers on Aether. I've only literally ever heard of one person, ever, being banned for boosting/wintrading/hacking in Feast. Though there's probably more I doubt even 10% of these people are ever banned.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I watched a random youtube video about some addon that makes the game so much better. It did have an addon that removes animation lock to speed up gameplay. At the time I thought what an advantage that would be for pvp. Just checked my history to find video again looks like youtube has deleted it for some reason.
    If you're talking about XIVAlexander, a lot of raiders use it to eliminate the animation delay due to ping. This sort of addon wouldn't exist if they just implemented this basic feature into the game itself.
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  3. #53
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    They've got no problem starting over because it's how they make money and the new account is just an operating expense.
    The moment they get banned faster than they can get value out of their bots, operating expenses will make them stop.

    The problem in MMOs is mainly that those botters are actualy still bringing in money. And it costs money to make them stop (both in personel costs and losing those subscriptions). This generaly means that you dont want them to stop entirely, you only want to disrupt them in such way you can maximize their expenses while having them disrupt less. Sure, depending on the dev they might go for the more extreme method, but note that this then always will cost money.

    You can ofcourse have some AI systems for detection, which for some bot things can be effective and often is a good way to push their expenses up (which they then cannot as effectively counter, because of quicker bot detection). But in the end, you cant realy win this fight anyway. Botters will just make their bots more effective at dodging detection, often with just reduced productivity, but as long as they still make profit at low effort, they wont care.
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  4. #54
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    In light of the recent bans issued for offenses of questionable weight, I can't help but find the continued presence of a veritable army of blatant cheaters on the moon all the more aggravating.

    I suppose that's likely a product of the former being an offense that could be addressed by the GMs as opposed to being handed off to the questionable efficiency of the STF...though that just makes me wish all the more that the GMs had the authority to just go over there, see that all of the involved players are clearly hacking and purge them on the spot.
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  5. #55
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    SiSenor's Avatar
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    Caim Verdelet
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    Excalibur
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    Monk Lv 90
    Seems like it has gotten worse since I last commented on this. Back then I would find 4-6 wanderers (I did a few player searches every now and then), but when I did this again today I found 6-10 on every world. Might be related to the time of the search this time, idk. Will try this again later on. Once their inventory is full, they hop to Mor Dhona to trade in the fishes, so yeah they're most likely farming Lunar Deathworms. I also found 2 bots that I've reported before posting here and they're still fishin :')

    Interestingly enough, one of the bots I've reported this time was in an 1 year old, 58 members fc with a small house. When I checked the house to see who was the FC owner, I found out that the leader has almost the exact same characteristics from the bots, other than having a glam. So I guess all the 58 members from this FC are bots? The only member online had one level 70 warrior, so maybe the bot owner buys a lvl 70 skip and levels up everything else to 90?
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  6. #56
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SiSenor View Post
    Seems like it has gotten worse since I last commented on this. Back then I would find 4-6 wanderers (I did a few player searches every now and then), but when I did this again today I found 6-10 on every world. Might be related to the time of the search this time, idk. Will try this again later on. Once their inventory is full, they hop to Mor Dhona to trade in the fishes, so yeah they're most likely farming Lunar Deathworms. I also found 2 bots that I've reported before posting here and they're still fishin :')

    Interestingly enough, one of the bots I've reported this time was in an 1 year old, 58 members fc with a small house. When I checked the house to see who was the FC owner, I found out that the leader has almost the exact same characteristics from the bots, other than having a glam. So I guess all the 58 members from this FC are bots? The only member online had one level 70 warrior, so maybe the bot owner buys a lvl 70 skip and levels up everything else to 90?
    if they have one 90 combat class, usually a caster type, but all the other members are 90 harvesters/crafters, I would say thats a good bot candidate.
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  7. #57
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    Shuuli Vondael
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    We need to report rmt activity more frequently. Many people dont even know that there is a fast report option for that by right clicking the real money promoter's name and then click report rmt and just do the thing.
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  8. #58
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuuli View Post
    We need to report rmt activity more frequently. Many people dont even know that there is a fast report option for that by right clicking the real money promoter's name and then click report rmt and just do the thing.
    the problem thats low hanging fruit. a blind person or a trained monkey could deal with them.

    SE needs to actually action on the people buying gil. if people are afraid of buying, less market, less incentive for the people running the bots. banning throw away accounts does nothing, as has been proven time and again. the botters just make more.
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  9. #59
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    Ranko Kurosuki
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    Brynhildr
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    if they have one 90 combat class, usually a caster type, but all the other members are 90 harvesters/crafters, I would say thats a good bot candidate.
    A friend's alt is a level 90 NIN only but has all of his Gatherer and Crafting Classes at 90 and I'm pretty sure he is NOT a bot.
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  10. #60
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    Vitalic Oni
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 90
    A game with a free trial and a level boost has bot problems? How can that be?
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