Yoshi-P: Flippant dismissal of player criticism is a poor look for a lead developer.

[Batbrat]

I'm really sleepy. Uhmmm tbh. No offense, truly truly. I know this is me we're talking about but no offense. This kinda sounds obsessed with him. Like, to the point of trying to control his facial expressions even. Why are we arguing over his tone. Kinda reminds me of like, those super creepy fans of idols who get pissed when their favorite idol stops smiling for two seconds. but like the opposite of that. Like..wtf guys did you see yoshi there cracking a JOKE??? He should be WORKING! APOLOGIZING, HUMBLING HIMSELF like omg relax. You stare at his face more than his mother did when he was born, enough is enough. Its ok to complain about the game and to complain when he blatantly says 'meh i dont care!' but if he says a little joke it is not the end of the world. Man cant even breathe slightly harder than usual at his own humor in peace. Man cracks a smile and we gotta hear about it for the next week, sigh

[Dyvid]

Absolute first point: This is not an attempt to discredit those who wish for more space or invalidate a playstyle



But....

How often do you use those stored items. Like all of them?

I think the banter after his joke said something like "wheres the system that gets rid of items that are unused" and I'm curious if people are aware of just how little they use ALL the stuff they're sitting on... or if there are actually people who cycle through the literal thousands of items it's possible for us to hold with fully expanded storage.

The system however is forcing us to sit on those items as well. Is there a way to reclaim Alexander job sets if I trash them? Ivalice? Eden?

[Raoabolic]

The system however is forcing us to sit on those items as well. Is there a way to reclaim Alexander job sets if I trash them? Ivalice? Eden?

You don't need all those sets. On an unrelated note, for a single dollar a month you can purchase the license for an additional retainer with more storage space! :^)

[Avatre]

It won't even take 3 months for people to complain that the dresser space isn't enough. I give it a month, tops.

[Tigerlilley]

You don't need all those sets. On an unrelated note, for a single dollar a month you can purchase the license for an additional retainer with more storage space! :^)

Need them? No. But some of these items are from great investments in time and personal achievements. Do I need the ugliest ultimate weapons of all time from DSR? No. But I'm sure as hell not throwing them out either. For TEA, the bis for monk were some gloves that dropped from Heroes Gauntlett. I ran that 55 times for those gloves to drop, it was a nightmare. There's no other way to get them, if I discard them then I'd have to do it all over again if I joined another TEA group.

This is why the system is so ridiculous and why people are so angry that they keep bandaid fixing with "more space". No one actually wants to keep 800 items on hand. We want a system like every other freaking mmo where the game recognizes you've had an item before and you can get it back if you wished.

Aka the thing everyone has been asking for for a decade. A glamour log.

[Dyvid]

You don't need all those sets. On an unrelated note, for a single dollar a month you can purchase the license for an additional retainer with more storage space! :^)

Maybe I do maybe I don't. I may not use them today but I might use them tomorrow for a glamour option. If I trash them then I have to spend the time trying to earn them back. Not sure why SE can't just make these a collectable and add it to the calamity salvager.

Also on the unrelated note, I shouldn't have to spend more money for storage of item. The way inflation is going, dollars are something you can't just throw away anymore. Not even FFXIV is recession proof.

[Deceptus]

When you have no rebuttal or actual argument, result to personal attacks it seems:

Not to be flippant about it, but I think I spot Karen(s)

Well someone discovered their inner karen today, would you like to speak to the manager?

Relax Karen

You are a living example of problems in translation.

Even though hoarding is something very specifically basic nature for many gamers, dismissing something on this basis in this case is just defying logic.

I tell you why. There is simply, just more and more content in the game. Not just the ingame new gearsets that you can get, but also, the store is getting continuously expanded. Which means, by basic logic, that you would need more space to store your older item. We are not just talking about full gear sets, but to keep the option to mix and match.

They could fix this issue by changing the system but that would take time and effort and accepting the fact that what they have now is not suitable for a long run. Imagine this game 10 years from now on with the amount of periodical new gearsets we get? You would be able to store, statistically, less and less percent of the potential glam that you could have. (100/10 vs 10000/10 is different percent you see, and when we would reach that phase they would say that "woops, there is a problem here".)

I have my thoughts on why they do not want to change this system and that is that this encourages people to buy more retainers which is more money for them on monthly basis. But retainers are just not solving the issue as most people find it very painstaking to go through 4-5 menues to glam the items from the retainers. We could be able to reach retainers from glam dresser, and this would solve a big part of the issue, and would still keep their money. But they perhaps did not think about this solution or again - just do not care to think about it.

We cannot know for sure why they treat this topic in this way. This is just my theory. I personally do not care what they say, I am happy about the extension, but this was just something logical not something I would bow down and praise them for.

This is pretty much my take as well. They are financially incentivized to keep the current system so why would they "fix it" even if they know it's unsustainable.

Hell they probably could have taken the money they've made on retainers over the past 10 years and funded a team solely for the glam work but here we are passing the buck down the road again.

[Kaurhz]

When you have no rebuttal or actual argument, result to personal attacks it seems:














This is pretty much my take as well. They are financially incentivized to keep the current system so why would they "fix it" even if they know it's unsustainable.

Hell they probably could have taken the money they've made on retainers over the past 10 years and funded a team solely for the glam work but here we are passing the buck down the road again.

There is no rebuttal to be had when you actively and routinely try to find an excuse to be upset, most especially when it is not rational to do so. This is basically just inviting people to exacerbate the issue, because you know, it's easy to poke the bear.

The developers made a joke and you get upset either out of a blunt translation (vibe and tone don't translate well) or just for the sake of it. It's that simple.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Considering Yoshi-P's general demeanor during Live Letters, the fact that something like this is even a thread is just hilarious. To pretty much everyone who's been around for a while and seen a letter live or two, Yoshi-P is light-hearted. There's a reason there's so many meme jokes and pictures of the guy. When Yoshi-P is serious about something even those of us that can't understand Japanese at all can tell.

[Wombatmetal]

As much of an issue I have with the work being done in FF, I do believe they are working on good faith. That is, given the situation, this is what they believe is best.

I can't wait for the reasoning behind job changes, though, since we can have more directed criticism, and it helps people decide clearly what they like and dislike about the direction of things.

I doubt they are working in good faith. I think they are deciding what is best and not taking player's views into consideration, and you see this at different levels in SE. From shutting the servers on the Fourth to doubling down on blockchain when the players really don't want that. It's a theme in SE