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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    And I want to point out, the "community" is hardly a single entity. Rather it's a moniker that are constantly "abused" by "Loud and obnoxious" minority to advance their own take in the game. I actually am very glad this forum is mostly ignored by the developers, I doubt I can enjoy the game as much as I current do if half of the complain here are taken seriously.
    For the most part you're right and that's a fair point.

    Note that I did make sure to cite examples where the community was pretty unanimously united in their opinion (Eg 2.0 Warrior being painfully inferior in the end game relative to PLD) or where it was a factual issue rather than anything to do with what anyone thought (SCHs not contributing healing).

    Regarding this in particular:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    If you believe he obligate to butter up and nod his head at every complain, then that exactly what gonna turn it into another fake PR event.
    Please don't over exaggerate what I'm trying to say here. Not once have I said that he needs to butter up and nod his head to every complaint. If I have, please quote where I said that. Until then I'd really appreciate it if you didn't twist what I'm trying to say into something I'm not. Thanks.

    To clarify. It would be beneficial if he read the room a little before cracking the joke.

    This thread is a bit of a stretch, but the backlash over the April fools haircuts was pretty inevitable IMO.
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  2. #152
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    I believe the boots are locked up into another content - my guess... Though I have a decent guess rate here. I imagine there is going to be a chocobo update of some sort, then you'd get it. To which they are not ready to talk about.

    As for other situations I don't think likes is exactly the only factor. Back before beta I had a thread on how cool it would be to take photos for memories in game, it wasnt nearly that lol. How tempered will was useful sometimes but could be more fun on paladin if it gave you tyrael wings that protected / tempered your allies. ARR SMN before it had demi / trance I was asking for more powerful presence, to which I got a lot of lore no(s), and suggested remnant bahamut aether and battery mechanics you would expend built up energy to do more lore friendly big things. Etc, etc. Most recently events I had been suggesting pylon weapons that float behind you, dark themed jobs like an inverse red mage, asking for personal instance homestead with progression mechanics, map UI on a Ethernet, blue mage feedback, etc, etc. Some of it is probably coincidence, but the list goes on and also noting some of that isn't just me or just English feedback. The variant dungeons are also an obvious feedback item from many people.

    There are moments where they might not be able to, or agree with a desire, but I definitely believe they listen at least and do incorporate it where it makes sense to them (with their own spins).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 07-03-2022 at 11:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    This is where you need the numbers supporting an issue. 200 healers being unhappy with the game is not enough to change everything for all the thousands upon thousands that might actually be happy with the job. Healers and their concerns were definitely addressed prior to EW launch. That may not be what this small group wanted, but it was clear they were listening to feedback and the content has definitely been giving healers more to do.
    You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and your posts are embarrassing to read.
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and your posts are embarrassing to read.
    Just because my name starts with Dev it doesn't mean I am concerned with your feedback, but hey you get that quick response you want while being belligerent and adding nothing to the convo. Congrats!
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Perfect example of someone finding reasons to be offended. Mind you this is not something that was said to offend anyone, this was someone deliberately wanting to be offended, analyzing everything said, latching onto the first thing they could be potentially offended by and firing criticism off for it.

    If it were genuine feedback it would have been worded in a constructive or objective way. But it’s easy to know what this is by reading the judgmental tone and condemnation in the post.

    This isn’t game feedback. This is someone who found a reason to be offended and making sure people know about it. Game feedback involves an constructive idea. This more a warning to the devs to not behave in a way that offends the poster.
    You're assuming I'm offended. I simply disagree with what he said and expressed it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Listrella View Post
    I see this is the same person who flew off the handle about yoshi's comment about challanging content and ultimate, apparently Yoshi can't make a little joke without pissing this guy off.
    I simply take people's words at face value. Bit hyperbolic in my response? Possibly. But when the lead director said something he needs to understand it carries weight.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 07-04-2022 at 12:59 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Just because my name starts with Dev it doesn't mean I am concerned with your feedback, but hey you get that quick response you want while being belligerent and adding nothing to the convo. Congrats!
    You sure seem to think you are with the amount of bootriding for the devs you do in here! Try to post in reality with the rest of us sometime!
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  7. #157
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    be like that guy that bought stock in nintendo to ask a question about F-zero and still get shot down.

    just because a forum petition reaches however many signatures/likes, etc. doesn't mean the devs have to take a look at it. your point has been made. the devs may or may not take a look at it. that's all you can do. if it's not to your liking well not much you can do, usually TOS says if you don't agree with TOS your only alternative is to uninstall/delete and not play the game.
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  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    On top of that, there's so much extra garbage to sift through in those threads, with all the belligerent folk fiercely clinging to the past.
    Threads in General are filled with more of that yet they get a response.

    The return of Kaiten is not too hard to translate. Has anyone responded to this: Compiled SAM threads against 6.1 changes / Kaiten removal

    What's the excuse this time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katoar View Post
    Threads in General are filled with more of that yet they get a response.

    The return of Kaiten is not too hard to translate. Has anyone responded to this: Compiled SAM threads against 6.1 changes / Kaiten removal

    What's the excuse this time?
    I apparently know nothing, so figure out the reason on your own.

    I've said plenty and more on feedback and all. At the end of the day, I'm not the one fussing, struggling and crying over changes I can't seem to get, so I'll be over here enjoying the game in relative peace.
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 07-04-2022 at 01:46 AM.

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    It wasn't flippant dismissal, it was accurate understanding of how players on the internet act.
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