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  1. #21
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    Kaseladen's Avatar
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    Asiago Kaseladen
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    Famfrit
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    Sage Lv 90
    Go home Vencio, you only exist to try and stir up drama
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  2. #22
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Oh wow, so instead of being bitter and passive aggressive because those whiny vocal SAM players are "taking away" attention, maybe I should actually be supportive because someone finally being loud enough to force SE to rethink their baffling job design philosophy might just save my main from being butchered in the future?

    Who'd thunk.
    And if they still make changes Dragoons don't like, do we blame those same "Vocal Samurai Players"?

    Or do we only accept responsibility when we perceive it as a good thing?
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    And if they still make changes Dragoons don't like, do we blame those same "Vocal Samurai Players"?

    Or do we only accept responsibility when we perceive it as a good thing?
    I rather blame whoever at Square was responsible for the horrible changes and possibly horrible changes to Dragoon, rather then another player or a troll adding fuel to the Fire.

    Stated in the last LiveLetter from Yoshi P's words is that they even thought about leaving everything the same, and the possible risk of the changes being met negatively while also knowing removing what was fun being quite risky and that Yoshi P will take responsibility if you read the quotes. So they know it wasn't going to be well received, and THEY take responsibility.
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  4. #24
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    Rhela' Relanah
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    Happy Friday! How goes?

    To keep it short & simple,

    SAM job is not “dead” as many deemed it to be all because of being streamlined which frankly the job still remains just effectively good unless you allow yourself for parse damage dictate otherwise.

    Thank you Yoshida for remaining steady with your changes & I was one of the few that supported 6.1 SAM’s changes which I am far delighted & pleased.

    I look forward to see what’s beyond 6.2 in the future & once again thank you for remaining truthful & absolute wirh your changes!

    Cheers,
    Main Class Paladin

    you don't have a horse in this fight; you clearly do not love the current iteration of SAM enough to show it. This is why people are calling you a troll.
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  5. #25
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    Vencio Luirex
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Not to disappoint you but I do & that’s why I support the changes.

    I get called Troll regardless even if putting my input.
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  6. #26
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    Not to disappoint you but I do & that’s why I support the changes.

    I get called Troll regardless even if putting my input.
    You get called a troll because your posts are passive aggressive and your points are that of someone who doesn't understand the job on top of the fact you don't even main it. Go away.
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  7. #27
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    Vencio Luirex
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    You get called a troll because your posts are passive aggressive and your points are that of someone who doesn't understand the job on top of the fact you don't even main it. Go away.
    Why are you even bothering?
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  8. #28
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric_Thorne View Post
    You don't even play SAM
    This is the case for most of these takes I find lol.
    I've seen this a ton with people who talk about MNK too, and they argue very confidently against people who have played MNK since ARR without even having started Pugilist xD...
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  9. #29
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    Kujata
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    This is the case for most of these takes I find lol.
    I've seen this a ton with people who talk about MNK too, and they argue very confidently against people who have played MNK since ARR without even having started Pugilist xD...
    And it's exactly because of this that we lost our positionals >: (
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  10. #30
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    Jinn Goda
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    Twintania
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    Marauder Lv 41
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    This is the case for most of these takes I find lol.
    I've seen this a ton with people who talk about MNK too, and they argue very confidently against people who have played MNK since ARR without even having started Pugilist xD...
    Don't really need to be a Monk expert to recognize the shallow and boring nature of most of the current melees and tanks, including Monk. I'm less inclined to be skeptical about someone's suggestions based on what they've played and more on whether they think something like Summoner is well designed.
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